Strange Behavior Question

[Faramir2]

Strange, unclear title, I know, but I was having trouble coming up with a better one, and the question requires describing a couple of scenarios to even ask it.

Here's the scenario: End of last week, my mom and sister were in the grocery store with my one-year-old nephew. My mom was letting him walk around in the aisle while my sister shopped. A couple stops to comment on how cute he is and narrate his thoughts—normal behavior from a middle-aged couple. Another lady passes and says, "I might just pick him up and take him home with me." Wasn't a cute tone, either, in the ooey-gooey, "Oh, he's so cute, I could just take him home and enjoy having him be cute" sort of way some people do. Everyone looks at her aghast, my mom ushers him away. Then she passes the lady later—and this is when it got weirder. The lady looks at him and makes this chewing, chomping sort of motion with her bared teeth at him, leaning toward him a bit. My mom made tracks elsewhere.

Couple of days later, we're sitting outside at a coffeeshop. I'm along this time, and I had seen this crazy-looking tall, skinny black dude trying half-heartedly to look like a lady come walking up the ramp to the front door. Wide eyes, unpredictable expression, looked like he was randomly falling over, grabbing the fence, and pulling himself back up with this flamboyant flourish. A little while later, he comes back out, as my mom is walking my nephew about. He says my nephew, stops to interact with him, and picks up his foot. Tells my nephew to pick up his foot, too, then says it much more sharply, when my infant nephew obviously doesn't get it. My mom picked up my nephew and skirted about this weirdo—as she does so, weirdo leans in and makes the same teeth chattering, chewing motion.

Does anyone have any idea of what the teeth thing is about? I can't find anything online about it but am convinced it was not coincidental. Two people behaving perversely and acting thoroughly as creeps, both doing that toward a little child? Too strange a set of circumstances to dismiss. I didn't intervene in the second scenario, but if weirdo dude had moved much closer to them, I was going to go hands-on and direct the dude elsewhere. Didn't actually do so, but it was exceedingly strange. Anyone got a sense of whether this was a drug thing, something else? The dude looked like he might be possessed, his expressions were that odd and contorted. Looked too healthy to be a regular tweaker, although it crossed my mind.

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[Dorkface]

My gut says a couple of socially awkward people trying to be cute and failing. Your mom made the right call by bugging out. Hard telling these days.

[chad newton]

I would say, you never can be too careful. They are probably harmless but you never know.... I don’t even let homeless come near me or mine, call me a dick I don’t care. I let them know to get the fuck away from me....

[Gabriel Suarez]

My POV...it is perfectly fine to be an asshole to people. In the first scenario, "Walk up and say only loud enough for the crazy bitch to hear, "Do you have a problem? ARe you trying to kidnap my kid...because I will end you slowly and painfully if you are...have a nice day".

Second scenario - and mine were taught from day one that some people are bad guys...they knew it at three. "Bobby...come over here now". Mine never questioned that. Coupled with a "I will rip your head off your shoulders and fuck the hole before your eyes fade" look. That would do the trick.

Moral of the tale - stop being so fucking nice to everyone. I am not there to be everyone's friend.

[LawDog]

Looked too healthy to be a regular tweaker, although it crossed my mind.Tweaker teeth take time. They don't all fit the visual image that we expect. But whether it is drugs or mental illness really doesn't matter from our perspective. We aren't looking to treat them; just to avoid them.

I'm trying to visualize the teeth chattering/chomping but having difficulty seeing it in my mind. There are too many variations. My own twisted mind goes immediately to cannibalism, but I realize that's pretty low odds.

I think people are often too trusting with strangers who approach their kids. Even if somebody isn't evil or high, they might just be really clumsy and hurt your kid accidentally. I wouldn't advocate for people to be helicopter parents, but it's reasonable to place yourself like a wall between your kid and other adults. If I walked up all interested in someone's child, I'll bet their protective instincts would kick in. But when a woman or an old man does the same thing, they don't act. In one sense, that's reasonable. There are very few female pedophiles. But women are just as likely to be idiots. Until you know that someone is safe--which includes both a lack of malice and also a certain minimum level of competence at life--they should be kept at bay. My own approach is a bit more gentle than Gabe's, but it's closer to Gabe than to Mister Rogers. I can smile with my mouth and still communicate with my eyes that I'm prepared to decapitate someone.

Encountering this bared teeth thing twice in a short time is weird, but probably still coincidental. If it really became widespread, I'd start worrying that we're at the beginning of World War Z.

[chad newton]

It’s the vaccinated.........

[jlwilliams]

Seeing a weird behavior like that twice in a short time is odd. My brain thinks "coincidence" but my gut doesn't believe in coincidence.

[coastalcop]

In the grocery store we they perchance near the fava beans or chianti ? ;)


I havent seen "chomping" around here, however jaw motion , thrusting of the jaw, and various tics are all side effects of several psychotropic drugs

[Redbug]

I knew a guy at work years ago that would do the chomping bit at times. It was anxiety.

But I could see how it could be psychotropic drugs since they are prescribed a lot.

[Gunstore Commando]

MDMA ("molly", some call it) can make users grind their teeth like that. That's why attendees at raves often are seen chewing on children's pacifiers. But the individuals described don't seem to fit the profile.

I almost wonder if it's not a side effect of some mental health medication that is actually prescribed to them.

[That Guy]

There are very few female pedophiles. But women are just as likely to be idiots.

While I don´t have statistics on this, I came across a few cases in which women were working in organized crime searching for suitable victims of kidnapping for either extortion, human trafficking or worse.
From the tactical perspective of OC it makes sense as women are seen as less threatening and are more likely to gain trust of children on average.

Conclusion: I´d react protective regardless of gender.

And I agree, the first thing I thought of was cannibalism. The second coincidence pointed towards a cannibal cult or a cannibal couple stalking you but that´s just my "professional paranoia" ;-)
The mental health or drug side effect explanation is the most likely cause.

[LawDog]

I came across a few cases in which women were working in organized crime searching for suitable victims of kidnapping for either extortion, human trafficking or worse.The "honey trap" is a very real thing. I don't know the full story, but I'm familiar with a guy who destroyed his career with the Department of State because he couldn't resist the Russian beauties. It even occurs in the animal kingdom: in Alaska, a female wolf who was in heat would go prancing around the neighborhood to entice the male dogs to take off after her, then she would lead the dog back to the rest of her pack, where he would become dinner.

I suppose that's an identifiable danger to TRT that you guys who are on the sauce should worry about.

[Faramir2]

Thanks for all the responses. Definitely going to be less nice to people in the future, although not quite bite the head off immediately.

I will note that I don't think the movements were involuntary due to drugs. More intentional coming motion, as though imitating eating. Hopefully that's a more clear description. Doesn't sound like these two were moving their jaws like that (I would recognize those movements).

More thoughts and questions this evening.

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[Redbug]

Cannibalism! Good God! That really happens? Some real sickos. Silence of the Lambs.

[BigEd63]

Cannibalism! Good God! That really happens? Some real sickos. Silence of the Lambs.

And don't forget the satanic shit going on also.

[patriot3386]

Cannibalism! Good God! That really happens? Some real sickos. Silence of the Lambs.

Honestly I wouldn’t put it past the left. They suffer from every neurosis known to science. This shit is why the aliens won’t talk to us…


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[Redbug]

Honestly I wouldn’t put it past the left. They suffer from every neurosis known to science. This shit is why the aliens won’t talk to us…


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Haha!

[apamburn]

K guys let's drop the tin foil.

Occam's razor....weird people, possibly predatory?

Or cannibalistic satanic cult?

My money is on the former. And to be honest with you I'm a lot less worried about satanists in general then I am about American Communists and socialists.

In fact, I think I'd prefer a Satan worshiping cult over today's brow beading, holier than now left, but the almost certain fact is that these people weird as they were when neither cannibals nor satanic they were just weird, possibly mentally unstable weirdos

[patriot3386]

Nah, no tinfoil here. Just saying I’d be amazed, but not surprised if it did become a thing.

As to OP, look at Tardive Dyskinesia. Apparently a possible side effect of chronic use of some of the older antipsychotics available. Might even explain second dude weirdly falling down for no reason.

As for aliens, there probably aren’t any. But if there are, they won’t be giving us hyperdrive anytime soon. [emoji573][emoji379][emoji2933]


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[chad newton]

K guys let's drop the tin foil.

Occam's razor....weird people, possibly predatory?

Or cannibalistic satanic cult?

My money is on the former. And to be honest with you I'm a lot less worried about satanists in general then I am about American Communists and socialists.

In fact, I think I'd prefer a Satan worshiping cult over today's brow beading, holier than now left, but the almost certain fact is that these people weird as they were when neither cannibals nor satanic they were just weird, possibly mentally unstable weirdos
Hungry weirdos.....

[chad newton]

Maybe they were just chewing Tobacco bro, I know where your at....

[SheepDog68]

About a decade or so ago I had a similar thing happen to me in a grocery store. Woman said she was going to take my baby! (Not the usual woman admiring a baby, but something creepy!)

I smiled at her and told her she’d never live to reach the end of the aisle! She looked at me pretty shocked and I looked at her like I’d already decide how I was going to kill her.

She decided she was needed elsewhere and left in a hurry!

SD

[Faramir2]

About a decade or so ago I had a similar thing happen to me in a grocery store. Woman said she was going to take my baby! (Not the usual woman admiring a baby, but something creepy!)

I smiled at her and told her she’d never live to reach the end of the aisle! She looked at me pretty shocked and I looked at her like I’d already decide how I was going to kill her.

She decided she was needed elsewhere and left in a hurry!

SDWhatever else may or may not be true about the two who made weird, creepy comments about my nephew, your statement would have been true. I told my mom that evening, "If that guy would have tried to get closer to him [the baby] or you, I would have literally kicked his tail to the bottom of that ramp."

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