Homeopathic meds

[ronlassit]

Been looking at homeopathic remedies I can make using plants that grow wild around my yard. Peppermint tea is my favorite and I drink a lot of it as it grows up beside my house every year. Supposed to be very good for digestion. I just drink it because I really like it. Next, I have brewed up some pine needle tea from the white pine growing in the yard. You can identify it by the clump of five needles that grow out of the branch. Has the same active ingredient as Tamiflu, as well as Vitamin C in an impressive amount. Tonight I am making a pain killer from opium lettuce, which is pretty effective. Seems like laying 12” block and running an impact driver for a week did a number on my wrist. The concoction from the wild lettuce really helped out, so I’m making more. No opiates involved, but from what I’ve read, too much can trip you out. Don’t want to go that far. I think it is good to learn about all such things as this because you never know when you might need it. Just need that recipe for dandelion wine, I know I have it somewhere around here.

[hawk9506]

Interesting. Something I've been meaning to look into as well.

[DogDoc]

I think it is good to learn about all such things as this because you never know when you might need it.

I know a nice fellow that could help you with that.

Here's my website: HomeGrownHerbalist.net (https://homegrownherbalist.net/)

Here's my youtube channel: Doc's YouTube Channel
(https://www.youtube.com/c/HomeGrownHerbalist/videos) There's a webinar I did on there on Natural Pain Management With Herbs (plus lots of others) if you're interested.

Herbs are often very useful for pain cases and are typically less harmful to your innards than pharmaceutical pain mends and most of them aren't addictive.

[henri]

There is a reason ineffective pseudoscience like homeopathy is no longer practiced. I'd rather pop two Advil for pain or take an antibiotic for ____, if required.

[Ragsbo]

There is a reason why these folk medicine techniques have been around for a long time and are still practiced; and that is they seem to work! Folks would not have kept doing something if it did not. Now the question is why/how do they work!

[Gabriel Suarez]

No dog in the race but will say this.

In 2005 I had the worst flu ever. URI cough, etc. Was on a homeopath course so went to go see him and got a run of herbs and tinctures and whatnots.

Two weeks later it was worse and turned into a slight case of pneumonia. Went to a traditional doc, got a run of antibiotics and was fine in a week.

I am all for knowing maps and compass, ise of a bow drill for fires, and all of the old ways...but my primary methods all involve modernity.

Including the tactical use of modern pharmacology.

[Hasher]

Well if I am ever afflicted with Corona again I will just eschew the ventilator/hospital and modern medical practices in favor of live der oil and healing crystals.

[TFA303]

Homeopathic ER Doc...


https://youtu.be/HMGIbOGu8q0

[DogDoc]

Just a couple of things for clarification and consideration.

- Homeopathy and herbal medicine are completely different disciplines. I'm an herbalist not a homeopath.

- I have a doctorate and 35 years experience as a practicing veterinarian. So I know a little about biochemistry, physiology, immunology, pharmacology, surgery, etc... I am also a clinical herbalist and a naturopath for humans so I know a little about herbs.

- Many if not most of our modern medications have been directly or indirectly derived from botanical extracts.

- There are mountains of research documenting the beneficial pharmacology of medicinal plants. Go to Google scholar and type in any herb name you want and look at all the data.

- There are a lot of things that drugs and surgery do vastly better than herbs do. There are also a number of things that herbs and dietary corrections do vastly better than drugs and surgery. I've used both for decades in my practice and wouldn't give up either.

- There is a ridiculous turf war between modern pharmacology and traditional medicine. Either side that engages in that and waves their pom-poms so hard for their team that it blurs their vision of the value of the other is an idiot.

- There are some folks that don't know what they're doing practicing herbalism. There are lots of Idiot Fudds that don't know what they're doing teaching tactical firearms classes. Just because the practitioner is unqualified doesn't mean herbs or guns aren't amazing tools in the right hands. Find someone that knows what they're doing and you'll be happier with the results.

[jhoward]

I have been using a mixture of anti-inflammatory since 1998. Originally for post dojo workouts, now for general bumps and bruises. Stinks to high heaven, but can be mixed in various combinations for adjusting strength. Po Sum On, Zheng Gu Shui, Dit Da Jow. External Use Only!. Agreed that the E.R. has it's place...just somewhere I strive to avoid :biggrin:

[45Smashemflat]

Herbology and homeopathy are like night and day.

[Herbert West]

There is a reason why these folk medicine techniques have been around for a long time and are still practiced; and that is they seem to work! Folks would not have kept doing something if it did not. Now the question is why/how do they work!

"Seem" to work. Most of 'what ever ails you' would/will have improved/dissipated on its own, approximately 30% of xyz ailments/ conditions will improve on its own, placebo effect. I'd say the reason they are still utilized is because they are pretty much harmless and not many are going to refuse grandma's chicken soup or mint tea or family remedy of choice, which couldn't hurt anyway.

[Warped Mindless]

There is a reason why these folk medicine techniques have been around for a long time and are still practiced; and that is they seem to work! Folks would not have kept doing something if it did not. Now the question is why/how do they work!

Every white chick under 30 believes in astrology too and uses people’s “astrology signs” to determine how to best interact with them. Just because a lot of dumb people believe in something, it doesn’t make that something legit.

That said, there are legit natural remedies that work well. Homeopathy, however, is 100% BS.

[BillyOblivion]

There is a difference between herbal remedies and homeopathy.

The first can be marginally effective (which is great when you only need a marginal effect), the second is utter bunk.

[BillyOblivion]

There is a reason why these folk medicine techniques have been around for a long time and are still practiced; and that is they seem to work! Folks would not have kept doing something if it did not. Now the question is why/how do they work!

There are three reasons that they "seem" to work.

The first is that some herbal remedies actually do work. St. John's Wort has been proven in several studies to have a mild (positive) impact on depression. Salicylic acid--found in the bark of the Willow tree--is an anti-pyretic (helps bring down fevers). It is chemically similar to aspirin, but does not have aspirin's pain killing abilities. There is a long list of such things.

The second reason is the placebo effect. When it comes to mild impairments it doesn't take a whole lot to get from barely non-functional to mildly functional, and sometimes a little belief is all it takes.

But the main reason is something called "reversion to the mean". Which is to say "shit usually gets better". For 10s of thousands to millions of years humans, and proto-humans managed to live in a world of bacteria, fungus, viruses, and violence and managed to heal. It's part of what our bodies do.

[Gunstore Commando]

Dit Da Jow.

You probably know this already, but for the benefit of those who don't -- some formulations of Dit Da Jow or however you say it have ingredients that you really don't want in your body -- opiates, mercury, heaven knows what else.

My own personal rule, for what it's worth, is I won't use it unless I personally know the person who formulated it. Extra points if he or she is older than I am...

[Gabriel Suarez]

Now all of that said..."There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your science"

10% off certificate to anyone that can answer the source without googling the phrase (God is watching if you cheat you magnificent bastards)

I have had good results from accupuncture. Usually ridiculed by western medicine, yet how many high level athletes and spec ops guys have seen benefits. And how many western doctors are still terrified of testosterone?

What does a renaissance man do? He learns for himself before , and perhaps rather than, trusting so called "experts". And that transcends the tactical use of pharmacology and medicinals. It involves spiritual matters as well as societal matters. And even political matters.

Would America have closed down and hid under their beds due to the Fauci Fear if they had researched for themselves? Likely not. This is a much bigger topic kids that leads into frightening areas of freedom that most are not only unaccustomed with, but that shatter the underpinnings of control that government, church, and other institutions have on the minds of free Americans.

FIND
OUT
FOR
YOUR
FUCKING
SELF
!
!

[Papa]

That would be the prince of Denmark, in the play named for him.

[Gabriel Suarez]

That would be the prince of Denmark, in the play named for him.


Mmmmm. Funny how so many of the modern crop of people do not know about Hamlet, much less he who wrote of him.

[barnetmill]

I have an interest in this general topic but not a whole lot of knowledge. I do have some training in biology. Just sticking to the part relative to using plants for medicinal purposes we know with certainty that they have value. The problem is if I take pine needles, or some mineral, or animal organ and use it for medicine, I really have no idea in many cases as what I am ingesting, breathing, or pressing against the body. Any even if I did, in many cases the medical establishment does not know how it works.
We have found out through trial and error that certain illness are helped. It is not a surprise modern medicine and pharmaceuticals is what we all depend on since they are tested under scientific conditions of research and are precisely regulated.
One problem while a lab does do extractions of materials, they can purify and precisely tell you what is there, quite often purity of the extract can remove trace materials that are of importance.
The entire field of modern pharmacology is pretty much based originally on extracting naturally occurring substances that were noted to be beneficial. Aspirin from the willow and penicillin observed growing as a contaminant in a petri dish that was killing what was supposed to be there.
I take fish oil that is purified and also eat fish to get some of what lost in the original extraction. I also take aspirin. For veggies there seems to be no downside in eating and drinking things in reasonable amounts that are known to be healthful.
l keep telling myself that I am going to start eating a better diet and never get around to doing it.
I have a relative that is a retired MD and she has respect for homeopathic medicine and since she started as a nurse she has a low opinion of the abilities of many MDs.
Medicine is now making advances in the highly technical field of cell biology, viruses, immunity,cancer etc. and hopefully they will catch up in other fields such as using commonly available 'natural medicines' derived from plants.