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08-22-2020, 02:41 AM
I figured you guys may be interested in this kind of stuff. Our little group is interested filling in the voids of real history and the rear end dynamics of skirmishes. We kept things quiet to get all the artifacts and prevent looting on this two year project. To see the results of the finds...Bagged, Flagged, and GPSed on the map with the finds identified as to what side fired what is pretty interesting. You could see the spreads from the grape shot and such. I cannot imagine the fear when something like that was shot at you. We got the landowner to burn off the area to do a better search, too. Hopefully, this attention will get some good funding for the South Carolina Battlefield Trust. There are other projects we are working on, as well. Archaeology is more than digging dinosaur bones. Did you know that Luminol can detect blood on an unwashed smoothbore if carefully handled?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/archaeologists-locate-south-carolina-battlefield-where-patriot-john-laurens-died-180975626/?utm_source=smithsoniandaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20200821-daily-responsive&spMailingID=43264416&spUserID=NzQwNDU0ODEzMDMS1&spJobID=1821763326&spReportId=MTgyMTc2MzMyNgS2&fbclid=IwAR2x6S7CpgZmR4RdTaq5N8UpIzoPWf__M35QK7VWU eGxDqTNNARJS9_Erro

08-23-2020, 06:02 AM
Dry cool! Thanks for posting!

08-24-2020, 10:26 AM
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.

Air Pirate
08-24-2020, 01:48 PM
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing!

Gunstore Commando
08-25-2020, 05:51 AM
That is really cool. But please be careful of UXO!

09-03-2020, 06:40 AM
That is really cool. But please be careful of UXO!

Yes, we are highly aware of that kind of thing. On this particular project, there was some overlay of Civil War ordinance, too. We had to separate out the different finds as to what era. This picture is of cannon ordinance from the Civil War within 300 yards of that site.60174

09-03-2020, 07:23 AM
The article mentioned something about knowing they were a few yards from where he died. How did they know that?

09-03-2020, 09:48 AM
The article mentioned something about knowing they were a few yards from where he died. How did they know that?

We put together a map of the total finds...from GPS. You could determine the range of fire and from where each side was located. Those weapons had a certain range and the scatter was centralized in a fairly small area. Each side had it's own weapons with different size/weights of balls. We also found a number of dropped balls, (as the combatants were reloading some balls were dropped), and that determined who was standing where. The map was pretty conclusive. We worked on this project for nearly 3 years...off and on...along with some other ongoing projects, too. About the picture...particularly interesting to me...A copper slave tag found nearby. It has been conserved and in perfect condition, now. These tags were only done in the Charleston area and were like what a license plate is to us now-days. It proved the yearly tax was paid for the slave and a new tag would be issued each year. Mike Y. found it and is quite knowledgeable about them. It has a number and the year...but does not tell anything about the slave, (which I was hoping). The number goes in the city tax books from the plantation where the tax was paid.

A little bit about what this is all about: http://scbattlegroundtrust.org/

09-10-2020, 09:30 AM
For me instead archeology that is of course a worthwhile pursuit, I like to study other skirmishes like the indians wars and more recent battles to learn what might apply to me and mine defending ourselves during these interesting times.
Instead say things of the civil war and earlier, look at more recent fights that often included rioting and general violence going from belt fed machineguns to clubs. Union/labor battles against companies and also the national guard. Then there were religious fighting in the USA. The best known were the conflicts between mormons and protestant christians that drove the mormons about the midwest to utah. Of course there have been racially inspired skirmishes.