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Gabriel Suarez
07-10-2020, 08:57 AM
I live in Prescott, AZ. Its not perfect but it is close.
When ANTIFA planned a demonstration here, everyone's phone rang. It was our various contacts in the local S.O. When they arrived at the town square the police were there...somewhat distant...but the streets were also heavily populated by retired military and police armed with rifles. The pictures in the media showed a few of them in front of the historic Cowboy Palace...a place frequented by the Earps and Holliday. The pictures didn't show the AZ version of the roof Koreans who were much more discreet.
Later, when the crowd dispersed, calls went out to the various guys in the local "priviliged hoods". We all kept our go bags, rifles etc, handy and waitied as a sort of QRF just in case. Suffice to say the sentiment was one brick = one bullet. That is the culture up here. But there is also history...a great deal of western history.
And until the rona hysteria, there was a nightlife. Shield Maiden and I would drive into town and dine at the The Palace, then walk down the alley behind Whiskey Row to the Back Alley Wine Bar where we would sit with friends and laugh. Within a four block radius we had a number of bars ranging from the high brow wine bar to a smoky den of bikers and beer. And in the same area a traditional italian restaurant fresh from Tuscany, a thai place run by thais, several steak houses, and a sushi place...among others. Almost every weekend there is a concert or something else happening at the downtown square and in the winter there are a couple of celebrations that take place regardless of weather. A good place.
If you want more, Scottsdale, our second home and soon where we will again have a second place, is only 1.5 hours away. And there you can find anything you want or could find in a big city. You will find more Ferraris and Mercedes there than old trucks.
A constitutional carry state you can carry anything you like...in most places openly, and the law is extremely friendly yo that and to self defense. If there is a gun mecca in the USA it is in AZ and not Texas. And for the outdoors types, there is more back country here than any place else except maybe Alaska. AZ has a great deal to offer.
Free of any liberals? A perfect place? No...but place is going to be. This one is close
Red Ryder
07-10-2020, 09:37 AM
Finally heading your way from the cursed coast! Your hospitality while training in Prescott was amazing and the countryside is wide open!
Looking in the smaller towns outside Phoenix to be near the big airport for frequent travel. Home prices are a fraction of the costs in Cali and seem to be flattening or even going down in the current market. Looking forward to being in Free America and enjoying the privileges afforded to all.
Harborcat
07-10-2020, 01:42 PM
We are ready to flee CA and AZ has been our top choice. The wife loves Scottsdale but Prescott seems like it’s ideal for me.
mrstang01
07-12-2020, 01:20 PM
How's the IT opportunity in the area Taipan, if you know?
Gabriel Suarez
07-12-2020, 01:45 PM
How's the IT opportunity in the area Taipan, if you know?
Its average. You need to either bring an income or you need to create one that is only partially reliant on the locals. There is money up here, but there are also alot of penny pinchers too. All that aside, it is a good place to start a business IMHO.
Red Ryder
07-12-2020, 04:27 PM
Telecommuting/Working remotely can allow the higher incomes of more affluent states and all the liberties and advantages of living in Arizona. A silver lining of the COVID situation is the number of companies allowing full-time work from home.
apamburn
07-12-2020, 05:18 PM
How's the IT opportunity in the area Taipan, if you know?
I am a software engineer, full time remote, and most of the people on my team are remote as well.
I have a number of co workers that live in and around Phoenix and I believe there's some opportunity in that sector in Phoenix based on discussions with them.
It's no Seattle or Silicon valley.....but that is changing. Tech companies that are tired of taxes in those areas are fleeing to neighboring states. My former home state of Utah, for example, has an area called the "silicon slopes" where eBay, Amazon, the NSA, PayPal, Adobe, Microsoft, Jet.com, Dell/EMC, and a host of other companies have established offices.
I suspect Phoenix is headed the same direction.
fidalgoman
07-12-2020, 09:05 PM
Thanks for sharing Gabe. It's like a cold glass of water on very hot day.
JDoza
07-13-2020, 04:48 PM
My wife and I became enamored with Arizona after the Army moved us here in 09'. We chose to stay upon retirement in 13'. We are planning a summer home concept in the north to escape the Phoenix heat in the summer like most. I don't plan to leave...
golucky
07-18-2020, 10:25 AM
Whole heartly agreement here, both wife and I still miss Arizona. And that's only from 2 trips for professional conferences in Phoenix and Tuscan. We also visited Sedona and the Grand Canyon given the limited time we were there. Hell, even my own health was getting better when we were there. I felt more alive, more energy, or maybe it was the lack of humidity as we're live near the gulf coast. Living in Texas, we are behind regarding 2A as we don't even have constitutional carry and many libtards are moving in as the major cities are turning or are already blue (e.g. Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio). We have and still do, many discussions on retirement and Arizona is definitely top of the list.
Pachucko01
07-19-2020, 06:19 PM
How’s Tucson? My employer has opportunities there from time to time.
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JDoza
07-19-2020, 07:36 PM
How’s Tucson? My employer has opportunities there from time to time.
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TUCSON has been working towards being a sanctuary city for sometime. They haven’t gotten enough votes yet, but don’t stop the efforts.
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CDX09
07-20-2020, 10:07 AM
How’s Tucson? My employer has opportunities there from time to time.
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If you plan on heading to “Northen Mexico” let me know. I’ve lived here the past 9 years
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Gabriel Suarez
07-20-2020, 12:18 PM
If you plan on heading to “Northen Mexico” let me know. I’ve lived here the past 9 years
Well...be that as it may...AZ State laws still apply and thus it is vastly a better place than CA, NY, IL, OR, WA, et al.
CDX09
07-20-2020, 12:19 PM
Well...be that as it may...AZ State laws still apply and thus it is vastly a better place than CA, NY, IL, OR, WA, et al.
Unequivocally. Thus why I still live here.
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Sgt. Psycho
07-28-2020, 07:51 AM
The liberal left is trying to infect AZ schools. Can Arizonans crush these programs before they get started?
"The Arizona Board of Education is gradually adopting Deep Equity into public education. These programs by Corwin Publishing and others like it are reeducating teachers in diversity training and inclusivity. In actuality, these mandatory trainings and seminars are discussing white privilege, implicit biases, restorative justice, and how inequality remains systemically oppressive within the United States. The YES (Youth Equity Stewardship) Program by Corwin Publishing has so far only been adopted for teachers, but there is a curriculum ready for adoption to be taught directly to students.
The rhetoric being used and the philosophy behind diversity training overtly violates Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Title IX of the Education American Amendments of 1973. However, Corwin Deep Equity and other programs like it are able to skirt past this by using legislative wording from the Every Student Succeeds Act (ESSA) signed by President Obama in 2015, and use past Civil Rights laws such as IDEA, Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, and ADA to justify their integration in school curriculums.
CHANDLER, AZ – 2017, the Chandler Unified School District was the first to purchase Corwin Deep Equity for $418,000 after an off-campus racial incident involving junior high students went viral, and after the school district settled an earlier multi-million-dollar lawsuit by the parents of teenagers from a local high school football team who were sexually assaulted.
TEMPE, AZ – 2018, numerous school districts in the Tempe boundary have adopted Corwin Deep Equity. Following the actions of their competitor, CUSD, the most notable was Kyrene School District who has integrated the program into their Strategic Plan 2022.
SCOTTSDALE, AZ – 2020, the Scottsdale Unified School District is looking to fast track Corwin Deep Equity after the George Floyd incident. They have yet to make a formal decision but committees are established and discussions are underway."
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2019/10/30/chandler-unifieds-deep-equity-program-came-with-shocking-price-tag/
https://www.kyrene.org/equity
https://www.scottsdale.org/city_news/susd-rushed-to-form-equity-panel-emails-show/article_1dbb242a-b7d0-11ea-9b64-b7d72df93dd0.html
https://www.americancontingency.com/deep-equity-programs-adopted-by-arizona-schools/
Gabriel Suarez
07-28-2020, 09:53 AM
I have been here since 2002. The left is not expelled from AZ anymore than any state worth living in. But the left has not changed life in AZ in any way since 2002. And that includes two terms of Obama. Public education (public indoctrination) is the same in any large city anywhere in the country. You want your kids to grow up like you...private school is the way to go.
I stand by my original statement that there is no orher place in the USA that offers the type of life I have in AZ.
henri
07-28-2020, 10:00 AM
No water in AZ. Oceanfront living is a must for me. Hence Florida, yeah I know, but hurricanes ! Hey, it makes things sporty for a week or two a year :-)
Also, isn't antifa/blm also rioting in Tempe, AZ now ? No state is really immune from such nonsense.
Gabriel Suarez
07-28-2020, 11:40 AM
No water in AZ. Oceanfront living is a must for me. Hence Florida, yeah I know, but hurricanes ! Hey, it makes things sporty for a week or two a year :-)
Also, isn't antifa/blm also rioting in Tempe, AZ now ? No state is really immune from such nonsense.
Plenty of water where I am. FL is nice but also much more densely populated and filled with New Yorkers...so there is that.
apamburn
07-28-2020, 01:36 PM
Plenty of water where I am. FL is nice but also much more densely populated and filled with New Yorkers...so there is that.
Signed sale contract on our home in NC today.
Haven't decided between AZ and TX yet, but those are the two candidates. More land and nicer houses in my price range in TX generally, but depending on where we go, we get more of this damnable humidity and possibly we are guaranteed to have higher property tax.
dnater
07-28-2020, 03:28 PM
Signed sale contract on our home in NC today.
Haven't decided between AZ and TX yet, but those are the two candidates. More land and nicer houses in my price range in TX generally, but depending on where we go, we get more of this damnable humidity and possibly we are guaranteed to have higher property tax.
A whole lot less humidity here in AZ. Property taxes a lot less than TX as well. State income tax is reasonable. Once out of Phoenix or Tucson metro areas, AZ is a very rural state.
Gabriel Suarez
07-28-2020, 05:14 PM
A whole lot less humidity here in AZ. Property taxes a lot less than TX as well. State income tax is reasonable. Once out of Phoenix or Tucson metro areas, AZ is a very rural state.
And should you need to visit a more comso area...which we all do now and again, Scottsdale and Fountain Hills and even Sedona are a short drive (1.5 hours - 2.5 hours). And state law supercedes local laws so your 300 BO riding between your seat and the console is fine everywhere.
JonathanNobody
07-28-2020, 06:01 PM
And should you need to visit a more comso area...which we all do now and again, Scottsdale and Fountain Hills and even Sedona are a short drive (1.5 hours - 2.5 hours). And state law supercedes local laws so your 300 BO riding between your seat and the console is fine everywhere.
I can guarantee your 300 BO is welcome on the passenger seat in FH.
Ted Demosthenes
07-28-2020, 07:08 PM
"I can guarantee your 300 BO is welcome on the passenger seat in FH"
Thank you Jon!
Gabriel Suarez
07-28-2020, 08:00 PM
Where is the smilie emoji. It is suppressed too so no need to frighten the horses.
Bob F.
08-15-2020, 09:34 AM
Hi jack alert: Tuscon in early Oct, still warm to hot? ("But its a dry heat!")
Francisp
08-15-2020, 10:23 PM
Anyone wanting to Make sure President Trump wins Arizona, PM me and I can put you in touch with the Arizona GOP field staffer. She needs help phone banking and door ealking. I am phone banking for Trump for her from New Jersey.
Red Ryder
08-16-2020, 08:55 AM
House shopping RIGHT now in Chandler and Gilbert areas- 118 degrees yesterday and we had a great Mexican lunch and sat in the outdoor patio with the misters running and it was fine (honestly).
The dry heat really is much easier to cope with than humidity. I wanted to see it "at the worst" and was not deterred. Houses seem to be selling promptly as many Canadian snowbirds can apparently not come back to their second homes yet but they are outnumbered by people, like me looking for a primary residence. Houses under $500k are selling in days of going on market. Over $1M are selling quickly but not over asking yet.
Never knew I needed an RV garage til I saw one and realized it was the ULTIMATE shop/gym/storage facility/offroad vehicle parking, climbing wall, mancave!
California income tax is 12.3%
Arizona is 4.5%
If you make a nice living, the difference will pay most of your mortgage JUST for moving.
While I expect real estate nationwide to take a dip with foreclosures and stock market adjustments ahead as COVID continues, I am not sure it will have much impact on million dollar + Arizona real estate.
The Canada angle was a new wrinkle I had not considered. One house was being offered fully furnished as the Canuck owners could not cross the border to get their stuff back.
Lots of them cashing out for 6 figure profits on houses they bought as little as a year ago. Easier to swap out of a second home than a primary. As winter approaches, they may be even jumpier paying for their warm-weather getaway home when they cannot even get here. Hoping to find one fed up with the struggle....
Sam Spade
08-16-2020, 10:12 AM
Hi jack alert: Tuscon in early Oct, still warm to hot? ("But its a dry heat!")
"Too" hot... That's really subjective. In October, I'm usually still offering thanks for having made it through August.
October averages high 80s. Rule of thumb is night lows are down 30 degrees from the day's highs. October is usually a dry month.
Shooter Ready
08-16-2020, 11:18 AM
The dry heat really is much easier to cope with than humidity. I wanted to see it "at the worst" and was not deterred.
I took a training class in Casa Grande in late August a few years ago and it was around 115-120 both days. It really wasn't so bad but I can see why people get up early in that part of the world. There is not a perfect place with ideal weather year round and friendly gun laws.
Anywhere decent will have left leaning people flocking there in droves. They will also want safe communities with low taxes without realizing their policies are what changes nice places into urban nightmares. Any state with a large urban centers run the risk of becoming a liberal utopia, including Arizona and Texas. This is just the nature of population and birth rates.
Smart and/or motivated people will find ways to live well within the law or in its margins. Not all gun people fall in this category and many like to act like Chicken Little. Even in my current liberal paradise, one can get an unrestricted CCW and carry an switchblade (but not a fixed blade) with the right documentation.
Bob F.
08-16-2020, 04:37 PM
Thanks, Sam. Trying to travel light.
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