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Gabriel Suarez
11-04-2019, 11:23 AM
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Gabriel Suarez
11-04-2019, 11:26 AM
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IANative
11-04-2019, 12:20 PM
Gabe, what is that last one?

Gabriel Suarez
11-04-2019, 12:54 PM
SIG 229 Carry Model.

Popshot
11-04-2019, 01:57 PM
P226 Legion58718

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doctom
11-04-2019, 02:59 PM
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It's a Legion but I changed the grips. I like the new grips.

What appendix holsters are you guys using for the Sigs with optics?

edit: had to grind down the grip a bit to get the de-cocker to clear.

Brent Yamamoto
11-04-2019, 03:17 PM
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Allen
11-04-2019, 04:52 PM
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jmoore
11-04-2019, 07:27 PM
Iím not up on all the various flavors of Sigs. Is the 229 Carry Model pictured above pretty much the same as the m11 a1? Iím considering getting one just to ďexploreĒ the da/sa system.

geezer john

CaptShack
11-04-2019, 10:53 PM
P226 - Slide NP3'd and RMR'd by SI

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Gabriel Suarez
11-05-2019, 06:47 AM
The P220 was the original model. Sold in 9mm, 38 Super and 45 ACP. Also sold as a Browining BDA in the US. The P5 (and later P225) was a compact version of it.

Later came the P226 in 9mm to compete against the Beretta 92F in what the 1911 crowd thought was the abomination of desolation...the adoption of a double action, foreign-made, 9mm.

The P226 morphed into various models some still around and some discontinued. This something that SIG, like Smith and Wesson, has a habit of doing.

The P229 was a compact version of the 226. I didn't have one until recently. Think of the 226 and the 229 like a Glock 17 and a Glock 19. The reason I got ths one is that the particular model (smoother, no rails, kinda like the US MIl's M11) is also discontinued.

There were others...the 224 (analagous to the Glock 26) now discontinued, and the 239...like a Glock 48...also gone.

FWIW, the world has a hard-on for striker fired pistols and will likely maintain the love affair for some years to come. I can't make any money from the DA world because it is so small and guys that vuy these tend to leave the guns alone. But for those who put in the time...and have the money...a Sig DA/SA - specially one with a tuned action and an RMR - has attributes and offers benefits that no other system offers. Just saying.

Brent Yamamoto
11-05-2019, 08:53 AM
The P229 was a compact version of the 226. I didn't have one until recently. Think of the 226 and the 229 like a Glock 17 and a Glock 19. The reason I got ths one is that the particular model (smoother, no rails, kinda like the US MIl's M11) is also discontinued.



I picked up a similar 229, I forget what model it was but no rails. It's used and wasn't pretty but I had Shopmonkey give it some attention and put a new 357 barrel in it. I plan to ring it out this month. If it does everything I want I'll probably send it back down for NP3.

And then there was that competition model I got...no pics yet but looking forward to working with that one as well.

IANative
11-05-2019, 08:55 AM
Top to bottom: P229R Nitron with SRT and trigger job; P229 SAS Gen 2; P239 SAS Gen 2. All in 9mm, of course.

The 229R Nitron is my candidate for SI milling, should it be offered again.

The 229 SAS and 239 SAS are my absolute favorite of both models, offered standard with no rail, SRT and standard reach triggers, plus the Sig Anti-Snag (SAS) carry melt. They are also both discontinued models, although there are still some new-old stock models available on Gunbroker and the like. I prefer to keep the SAS models as-is, i.e., no RMR. The 229 SAS came standard with my preferred E2 grips, whereas my only complaint about the 239 is the OEM plastic grips, which I could
probably address w/ a stippling job.


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trac1
11-05-2019, 07:36 PM
I picked up a similar 229, I forget what model it was but no rails. It's used and wasn't pretty but I had Shopmonkey give it some attention and put a new 357 barrel in it. I plan to ring it out this month. If it does everything I want I'll probably send it back down for NP3.

And then there was that competition model I got...no pics yet but looking forward to working with that one as well.
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Pretty much what I have, but I bought new in 1995 originally in .40 cal. Updated to .357 Sig and SRT trigger, then later did NP3 finish and changed out grips.

callmebubba
11-05-2019, 08:01 PM
Just an old P226 I got cheap in 40. Found a complete 9mm slide, added the RMR and Suarez adjustable trigger.
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Papa
11-07-2019, 03:29 PM
The XO's FrankenSig--a stamped 9mm upper on a .40 229R--

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and a wee little fella.

Gabriel Suarez
11-07-2019, 04:20 PM
I wish I could find another 290. I sold mine and now realise it is the best NPE pocket 9mm ever made.

Papa
11-07-2019, 04:41 PM
They show up periodically on GB and elsewhere.

We have frequently discussed Sig's ADHD and other disorders on this site.

What were they thinking?

Allen
11-07-2019, 06:38 PM
Hey Papa, which TLR switch is that? Did you have to do anything to make it work?

Papa
11-07-2019, 07:38 PM
Hey Papa, which TLR switch is that? Did you have to do anything to make it work?

Smith and Wesson. Works OK on the 229, but the hook on the 226 is too large.

Fat
11-08-2019, 08:52 PM
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Nothing special, just an SRT kit. I heart my double stack double action .45

Frank027
11-13-2019, 05:48 PM
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BarnStorm
11-13-2019, 07:53 PM
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P320 XCarry I picked up.

Popshot
11-14-2019, 11:49 AM
During the past weekend, I acquired a lightly used M11-A1. Two of the three magazines had never been used. After yesterday's live fire session, I am very pleased with this addition to the fleet.

I find that my shot placement is more consistent with the M11-A1 than with the P226 Legion. Two things that may lead to the results: grips and sights. The G10 grips on the Legion are very nice, but have a wider profile at the rear, compared to the tapered rear grips on the M11-A1. The front sight on the Legion is green fiber optic, compared to the black/tritium dot sight on the M11-A1. The journey continues...

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Jsavik
11-19-2019, 09:06 PM
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Sig Virtus 11.5" 5.56
Two MK25
M11-A1
Legion SAO 9mm
(Last two headed to auction block)

Brent Yamamoto
11-19-2019, 11:42 PM
In desperate need of a mod to edit my photos...

The IT guys can probably do it but I don’t see how to address as a Mod.

What you need to do is edit the post. Then select “Go Advanced”, scroll down and select “Manage attachments”. This will open another window. You can select the two unnecessary pics and delete them. Save and you should be good to go.

I post a lot of pics and the site does this sometimes. I have not found a lot of rhyme or reason as to when it chooses to add those additional pics. I think sometimes it will happen when you add a pic and then backspace over the pic to delete it...it will delete from the post but then place it at the bottom like you see in your post. But it’s not consistent. Mostly the site works like it’s supposed to, sometimes with these pics it does what it wants.

Jsavik
11-20-2019, 06:54 AM
Thanks, Brent. I found it worked best if I posted the photo from my phone, then edited the post on the laptop. Internet is so slow here it should be a crime.

Gabriel Suarez
11-20-2019, 07:19 AM
Honestly...IMHO, the best DA/SA out there is the SIG P-22X series. I do hate SIG's mismanagement and how they discontinue products. They are worse than S&W.

Classics

The SIG P226 series followed by the 229. Both analogous to the Glock 17 and 19 series/

They made a SIG P224 at one time which was like the Glock 26. I have only seen them in 40 bur a 224 in 9mm would make a great NPE holsterless carry pistol.

The SIG P239 - think of a DA/SA Glock 48 and that is it.

The SIG P230/232 series. By far the classiest 380 I have ever seen or shot. Fit for a James Bond tuxedo scene.

Papa
11-20-2019, 07:51 AM
The 224 is a nifty little gun. For a brief and shining moment couple weeks ago CDNN had factory rebuilds in 9mm and I scored one. The .40 I bought years ago got a Barsto 9mm conversion barrel and runs reliably.

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For my use a 224 needs 2 things: a standard length trigger and a magazine base "hook."

What makes the 290RS better for pocket carry is the 224's weight. 224 is a brick of a gun. But in my hands it is substantially more accurate.

I wish I could get the DA pull down a bit, but hammer spring is short and stout and I worry about messing with the slide's dwell time.
This would be a hell of an EDC with an RMR and comp.

IANative
11-25-2019, 12:52 PM
Thoughts on the P239 vs. the P225-A1?

Francisp
11-25-2019, 08:34 PM
Thoughts on the P239 vs. the P225-A1?

225 is a single column mag 228. 239 will be smaller

Gabriel Suarez
11-26-2019, 06:19 AM
I have both sizes. The 225 is a superfluos weapon IMHO. The 226 and 229 are analogous to the Glock 17 and 19. The 225 and 239 seek to target the same nich as the Glock 48. A slimline EDC-Pseudo-NPE carry. In that, the 239 does it better. The 225 doesn't do anything better than the 239. Sadly...SIG in its bipolarity discontinued the 239.

IANative
11-26-2019, 01:41 PM
How 'bout a P226/229 RMR milling special as one of the Suarez Black Friday Week specials? :wink:

IANative
11-26-2019, 01:42 PM
I have both sizes. The 225 is a superfluos weapon IMHO. The 226 and 229 are analogous to the Glock 17 and 19. The 225 and 239 seek to target the same nich as the Glock 48. A slimline EDC-Pseudo-NPE carry. In that, the 239 does it better. The 225 doesn't do anything better than the 239. Sadly...SIG in its bipolarity discontinued the 239.


Fortunately, I already have the 239... but that doesn't make me want a 225-A1 any less, dammit.

Gabriel Suarez
11-26-2019, 03:28 PM
So on that note...nithing will happen for Sig this year...but in 2020...yes.

What other than milling (working on that) would you actually spend cash on?

IANative
11-26-2019, 03:46 PM
So on that note...nithing will happen for Sig this year...but in 2020...yes.

What other than milling (working on that) would you actually spend cash on?


Speaking for myself only...

The milling for RMR is Top Priority for me. However...

1. The old SI solid, adjustable Sig trigger was nice. If I had a Sig w/ a short-reach trigger (like the M11-A1) and wanted to swap it out for a standard-reach, I'd opt for that SI trigger over OEM.
2. Trigger jobs- I know what some of the "names" in the Sig/HK world get for trigger jobs (think $300+), and I know what you (Gabe) have said about Shop Monkey's trigger work, so...
3. Comps- With all the different Sig slide configs, it sounds as if the new Dark Alley Comp may fit the bill here.
4. Mag extensions- while Mec-Gar offers 20-rd P226 mags and 17-rd P229 mags, I don't know of anyone who offers a universal +2/+3/+x mag extension for Sig mags. Of course, there are many more variations of Sig mags vs. Glock mags, so maybe that's why, but a mag extension that worked off of the OEM P226 and P229-1 mags would be sweet.
5. What am I missing?

IANative
11-26-2019, 04:04 PM
Here's another thought... OEM grip stippling. While I think the E2 grip is the cat's ass, not all agree. I'm not afraid to heat up a soldering iron, but a professional-looking stipple job on the OEM polymer grips may be the ticket for some.

Papa
11-26-2019, 08:45 PM
So on that note...nithing will happen for Sig this year...but in 2020...yes.

What other than milling (working on that) would you actually spend cash on?

Night sights-as my older ones fade and newer acquisitions come without

Triggers and spring sets, including a trigger bar with improved leverage (maybe a TJIB?)

Steel, not MIM, action parts

NP3 plating for action parts

And in the realm of fantasy--SI forged slides to replace stamped 220, 228 and 226 slides, cut for RMR with a slide saddle. Gotta aim high.

EEE
11-27-2019, 08:11 PM
Donít know if itís possible - a grip chop for the 229 would be awesome.

Papa
11-27-2019, 11:45 PM
Better off, I think, running a 224 with a comp.

Maddog6
12-08-2019, 08:47 PM
My favorite SIG. Purchased before the current batch of pistol braces was a thing. Never would have bought it if Gabe and others on WT didn't say don't be afraid to go down the NFA road. Many 20 round mags were purchased from SI way back when. Won a $20 bet by hitting an egg at 60 yards on the first shot!
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Greg Nichols
12-09-2019, 06:46 AM
Love that one.

IANative
01-01-2020, 01:37 PM
So on that note...nothing will happen for Sig this year...but in 2020...yes.

Umm... it's 2020... :dope:

Don't want this idea to wither on the vine.

babue
01-01-2020, 02:31 PM
All these nice looking Sigs with their RMR's made me get another Sig. I like shooting this one even more than my Glocks, so it will need an RMR cut.
Already have my old holster.
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EEE
01-02-2020, 08:13 AM
I noticed there is a place holder for Sig 320 red dot slides on the website - when will those be available?

Brent Yamamoto
01-03-2020, 02:05 PM
Something different.

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Papa
01-03-2020, 02:07 PM
Something different.

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Ausgezeichnet!

IANative
01-03-2020, 02:08 PM
Something different.

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Ooooooohhhhh... 'Splain, Lucy!

Brent Yamamoto
01-03-2020, 02:41 PM
229S (Sport). Steel frame, 4.8 inch barrel, compensated, 357 Sig.

Trigger has some of Shopmonkey’s magic and is smoother than Greg after a waxing. And man does it shoot. I do not care for the rubber grips, but it is very comfortable in the hand. It needs a thinner front sight.

It would be a crime to add an RMR...but damn I want to.

I have only put enough rounds through it to zero with training ammo. Next step will be fine tuning zero with decent stuff.

IANative
01-03-2020, 02:46 PM
229S (Sport)...
It would be a crime to add an RMR...but damn I want to.


I love that rolo adjustable rear sight... but a black RMR wouldn't look too bad, either. :drooling:

Popshot
01-16-2020, 03:55 PM
I finally installed the SI supplied upgrade components onto my P226 Legion: Hogue G10 Piranha grips, SilencerCo threaded barrel, and SI single-tritium front and rear sights. These simple to add items (upon getting a new sight pusher tool) make the pistol perform better than the original.

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If SI can transform a humble Glock into a wonderful machine, I can only imagine what the future holds for my Sigs.

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IANative
02-26-2020, 07:23 AM
So on that note...nithing will happen for Sig this year...but in 2020...yes.


Anything new on this front?

Papa
02-26-2020, 09:06 AM
Umm... it's 2020... :dope:

Don't want this idea to wither on the vine.

What he said.

Gabriel Suarez
02-26-2020, 10:01 AM
We had to move some things around in production. Trust me...I would love nothing more than to bring the 226/229 out and carry it. Glock still rules the market and until it gets Bubbaized to death by the garage-self-shooting world, it must remain my focus. But what I want to do for the SIG is to bring a comp for it, an RMR cut, and a few internals.

Alas, what I do I do for profit. If there is no profit I don't care how cool it is, I move away from it. Look at the AR market. Only guys making the components themselves are making any $$$ in the AR world. I can assemble an AR with even mediocre parts for what they sell these days from Ruger and others.

We look at many "boy wouldn't this be cool" stuff, but at the end of the day, cool doesn't keep the lights on...Glock shit keeps the lights on...at least for the time being. I am not forgetting the SIG, but reality is that more profitable items get moved ahead of it in line. Sorry...that is the honest answer.

IANative
02-26-2020, 10:26 AM
We had to move some things around in production. Trust me...I would love nothing more than to bring the 226/229 out and carry it. Glock still rules the market and until it gets Bubbaized to death by the garage-self-shooting world, it must remain my focus. But what I want to do for the SIG is to bring a comp for it, an RMR cut, and a few internals.

Alas, what I do I do for profit. If there is no profit I don't care how cool it is, I move away from it. Look at the AR market. Only guys making the components themselves are making any $$$ in the AR world. I can assemble an AR with even mediocre parts for what they sell these days from Ruger and others.

We look at many "boy wouldn't this be cool" stuff, but at the end of the day, cool doesn't keep the lights on...Glock shit keeps the lights on...at least for the time being. I am not forgetting the SIG, but reality is that more profitable items get moved ahead of it in line. Sorry...that is the honest answer.

Understood. Speaking for myself only, I have one, maybe two Sigs that I want SI-Optimized. I know there are others here, too, but I don't know if there are enough of us to make the juice worth the squeeze for you. Are you considering any projected Sig timeline right now, or are we on an indefinite hold?

Gabriel Suarez
02-26-2020, 11:11 AM
I need to catch up on Glock first. We have a new slide coming out, and likely a G48 slide as well. And then a bunch of micro-products as well. And then some Tac-13 stuff too.

Mike OTDP
02-26-2020, 02:12 PM
I have to wonder if a subscription model might not work best for this sort of thing. Get a set number of prepaid orders together before doing anything.

With Glocks and ARs, in particular, and 1911s to a lesser degree, there is a "Legos for grown-ups" mentality that impedes making a quality product. Too many people want to buy an entry-level gun (or pieces) and clap it together themselves...whether or not they have the skills to do so.

Papa
02-26-2020, 02:52 PM
We had to move some things around in production. Trust me...I would love nothing more than to bring the 226/229 out and carry it. Glock still rules the market and until it gets Bubbaized to death by the garage-self-shooting world, it must remain my focus. But what I want to do for the SIG is to bring a comp for it, an RMR cut, and a few internals.

Gotcha. We'll take what we can get. A slide-matching comp would be cool, but there's always the Dark Alley.

Cody C
02-26-2020, 03:27 PM
I love the trigger kit you used to make.

The comp idea would be awesome. I would personally be worried about finding a holster for it but I would get one for my 226.

When I take my 226 to the range here there is always a comment. Being in sig's backyard there are many purists that hate that I have a sig with an rmr cut. I've given up trying to explain it to them. They can keep getting their romeos replaced under warranty.

The sig aftermarket is very small, glock is the cash cow and probably will always be.

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IANative
04-08-2020, 04:56 PM
Not enough Sig pics around here lately. Here are three of mine, practicing their version of social distancing...

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Allen
04-08-2020, 06:03 PM
+1 on cut & RMR, so thats $7-800. Betcha'll we hit a 2020 TT's price tag of pending work and...

IANative
04-08-2020, 06:07 PM
I've scaled back on purchasing during the recent difficulties, but I'd spring for a P229 mill job and RMR if it hits the store again.

thewolverine
04-09-2020, 01:10 PM
Both my SIG slides (P220 10mm and P226) were worked/completed by SI.
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IANative
04-09-2020, 01:45 PM
Both my SIG slides (P220 10mm and P226) were worked/completed by SI.
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Very nice.

Johnny C!
04-09-2020, 04:13 PM
Dang.

You had me at burnt bronze.

Very nice!



Both my SIG slides (P220 10mm and P226) were worked/completed by SI.
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45Smashemflat
04-10-2020, 02:56 PM
Can’t get a “review” of the 10mm? I’ve been interested in that caliber as a woods gun alternative to a big bore revolver and the 220 Legion and various 1911 platforms seem great for that application.