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Gabriel Suarez
05-19-2019, 10:00 AM
Global Meat Production and Consumption Continue to Rise (https://automaticblogging.com/global-meat-eating-is-on-the-rise-bringing-surprising-benefits/)I originally saw this in an article in The Economist. An excerpt:

The shift from pork to beef on the earth’s most populous nation is dangerous information for the surroundings. As a result of pigs require no pasture, and are environment friendly at changing feed into flesh, pork is among the many greenest of meats. Cattle are normally a lot much less environment friendly, though they are often farmed in several methods. And since cows are ruminants, they belch methane, a robust greenhouse gasoline. A research of American farm knowledge in 2014 estimated that, calorie for calorie, beef manufacturing requires thrice as a lot animal feed as pork manufacturing and produces nearly 5 occasions as a lot greenhouse gases. Different estimates counsel it makes use of two and a half occasions as a lot water.

Gabriel Suarez
05-19-2019, 10:06 AM
Currently, myself, I have gone back to a hard paleo diet. I found many thing beginning to intrude on my diet and did not like the results. So this last week I tightened it down with 50% meat (all grass fed, organic, etc.), 35% fat (mostly from the meat, but also from other natural sources), and only 15% carbohydrates (mostly from vegetable and fruit sources).

I have removed grains completely. They had begun intruding and the result was not beneficial. No gluten, no rice, nor gluten-free foods (that simply use other forms of grain/gluten). Eliminated anything that has soy remnants, as well as processed sugars. I am considering removing dairy as well.

I will say that the official recommendations for diet that come from large medical groups are in line with the government's suggestions. Follow the money. The Gov funds wheat and soy production in the USA, hence the grains recommendations.

barnetmill
05-19-2019, 12:24 PM
Dairy in the fresh non-fermented form with lactose can only be correctly digested by people with the correct genes that include most northern europeans and some other peoples that were originally pastoral. It was never a part of the paleodiet and the genes allowing adults to digest it came about as we were beginning to leave the paleodiet. There is not a basic need for humans to consume milk.

There are likely millions of pounds of range fed pork in the USA on the hoof. Not too much of it is sold for consumption for various health related reasons. It can be good meat. Just about every poorer family in the south had a pig that could eat garbage, human slops, and just about anything that included rats and snakes. A lot cheaper to keep than a cow relative to meat production.

World wide as the chinese get some wealthy people their demand for meat is going up. If you have money, normally you want meat. Our nearest living relative the chimps kill and eat other monkeys. The desire for meat in our species goes back to our earliest ancestors. But also they had a desire for fats that used be satisfied by breaking bone open for marrow. Other than honey the only carbohydrates were what they got were from seeds, nuts, and fruit. Many also did live near river and marine shores and got food from those resources. Still very high protein and maybe some sea weed.

Brightlightman
05-19-2019, 01:57 PM
I wonder what they think about rabbit meat?

Papa
05-19-2019, 02:14 PM
As an aside, never thought I would feel eating bread was a guilty pleasure. And I expect to pay for a day or two afterward: headaches, gut problems, weight fluctuation.

I like and consume lots of beef, pork, chicken, and bison when I can get it. Also a lot of dairy: fullfat yoghurt, kefir, cheese. Don't care about methane production, or the effect of beef production on the environment.
And judging by the article, neither does much of the rest of the world. As meat becomes readily available, and affordable, people will eat it, in whatever quantities they can afford or desire.

The left can create what bogus virtue-signalling arguments it wants. The left can eat what enervating pap it wants. And the sooner the better. I'll just sit here in the corner, gnawing on the bones.

barnetmill
05-19-2019, 02:40 PM
As an aside, never thought I would feel eating bread was a guilty pleasure. And I expect to pay for a day or two afterward: headaches, gut problems, weight fluctuation.

I like and consume lots of beef, pork, chicken, and bison when I can get it. Also a lot of dairy: fullfat yoghurt, kefir, cheese. Don't care about methane production, or the effect of beef production on the environment.
And judging by the article, neither does much of the rest of the world. As meat becomes readily available, and affordable, people will eat it, in whatever quantities they can afford or desire.

The left can create what bogus virtue-signalling arguments it wants. The left can eat what enervating pap it wants. And the sooner the better. I'll just sit here in the corner, gnawing on the bones.
In paleolithic times there were vast herds of grass eaters and many of which were ruminants just like cattle and likely released just as much methane. Methane was just fine then. The mass balance for methane has to include a lot of processes from termite mounds to the thawing of the tundra. exactly what is the difference methane wise between vast herds of bison roaming the ice age plains and cattle in a feed lot eating corn-maize supplements? If one start listening too much to these ecofreaks next to stop you from eating meat they will to attack the grill. Open flame cooking of meat produces dioxins just like it did for the cave men when they finally discovered how to cook their meat with fire.

Dorkface
05-20-2019, 04:08 PM
I eat so much meat that the manager of the meat counter has caused me problems that required contacting his managers. Apparently he doesn't like making money and can't manage inventory... because he has to think.

Dairy wise I mostly eat cheese. Though I do eat a lot of whey isolate too.