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HeavySmoke
05-14-2019, 02:19 PM
I found out this weekend that by the end of the year I will be carrying a SIG p320 in 9mm. Even if I dont want to. The good news is delta points are approved for duty use on the or the sig romeos. I dont know why the trijicons weren't on the list but they might get added. Which model do you guys that carry them prefer. The x series? The vtac?? There are so many fucking options I'm lost.

Mushinto
05-14-2019, 02:59 PM
Issued sidearms suck.

-- ML

HeavySmoke
05-15-2019, 09:24 AM
I agree but the previously liberal weapons policy is gone. Personally purchased or issued everyone will carry some version of the p320 in 9mm

Badger
05-15-2019, 07:07 PM
May I ask how long you have been in LE?

HeavySmoke
05-16-2019, 04:54 AM
May I ask how long you have been in LE?

9 years as of last week.

Papa
05-16-2019, 05:10 AM
What was the rationale for this?

HeavySmoke
05-16-2019, 05:44 AM
What was the rationale for this?

That's a good question. Part of it was the huge variety of weapons and calibers being carried. Our sidearm policy has changed 3 times since I started.

Mushinto
05-16-2019, 07:04 AM
Control freak administrators and lazy or incompetent firearms training staff are often the culprits.

-- ML

SCSU74
05-17-2019, 08:00 PM
I found out this weekend that by the end of the year I will be carrying a SIG p320 in 9mm. Even if I dont want to. The good news is delta points are approved for duty use on the or the sig romeos. I dont know why the trijicons weren't on the list but they might get added. Which model do you guys that carry them prefer. The x series? The vtac?? There are so many fucking options I'm lost.

The X5 is the best 320 model going, but you'll have to modify the optic cut to use a DPP. The new pro series allows you to drop a DPP on without mods.

HeavySmoke
05-19-2019, 03:43 PM
I picked up a X compact today. The deltapoint pro goes right on it. After shooting a hundred through it I'm not sure this trigger is even safe....

Papa
05-19-2019, 04:58 PM
Post a pic. How much of the cut does it occupy?

paknheat
05-19-2019, 06:54 PM
I picked up a X compact today. The deltapoint pro goes right on it. After shooting a hundred through it I'm not sure this trigger is even safe....

What’s wrong with the trigger ?


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coastalcop
05-20-2019, 04:37 AM
Usually it is to clean up the ammo supply line. So everybody goes to 9mm, then the admin and firearms guys get together and say "not everyone can/will buy a 9mm pistol from the "approved list" , then it goes to lets solve that by issuing them one .


I always preferred an "approved list" and issue policy (you can shell out your dime for something on the list, or take what we give you)

HeavySmoke
05-20-2019, 05:07 AM
What’s wrong with the trigger ?


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It's a solid, straight trigger and it feels light. There isnt the split trigger like the Glock. Maybe it's my resistance to change, but I just dont see how this is safe.

HeavySmoke
05-20-2019, 05:09 AM
Usually it is to clean up the ammo supply line. So everybody goes to 9mm, then the admin and firearms guys get together and say "not everyone can/will buy a 9mm pistol from the "approved list" , then it goes to lets solve that by issuing them one .


I always preferred an "approved list" and issue policy (you can shell out your dime for something on the list, or take what we give you)

That's basically what it is. We can take the 320 they are issuing or buy any other 320 we like as long as it's in 9mm.

Papa
05-20-2019, 07:27 AM
It's a solid, straight trigger and it feels light. There isnt the split trigger like the Glock. Maybe it's my resistance to change, but I just dont see how this is safe.
Suspect you won't be dropping this one in an overcoat pocket, or carrying it in your waistband without a holster.

joe6pack
05-22-2019, 12:39 PM
I would suggest that you look at a replacement trigger, my 320 came with the curved and I chose to buy and replace the trigger with a SIG OEM straight trigger. The trigger pull changed a bit but I found that it wasnt for me (finger pinch), I was more accurate with the curved. Also about 3 months ago I purchased a Gray Guns competition trigger kit, this included a new trigger and springs as well as sear,over travel tube and safety tube. The GG curved trigger feels a lot better than the OEM and the springs provide less pull weight. I was told this kit can be installed without the aftermarket springs and that is what some are doing and reporting a very nice and consistant trigger pull. Less pull weight may not be advisable in a duty gun. If you have to carry this gun perhaps you can use an aftermarket trigger kit. For what its worth, I've got 7,000 rounds thru 1 and a few thousand thru 2 more ....not one issue.

khadga
05-23-2019, 11:11 AM
The good news is delta points are approved for duty use on the or the sig romeos. I dont know why the trijicons weren't on the list but they might get added.

Bizarre but unsurprising. Nothing bureaucrats dictate surprises me anymore.

Jeff22
09-05-2019, 11:44 PM
I started as a cop in a little town. We had a "carry whatever you want" policy. The Chief carried a Browning P-35 in condition 2 (hammer down on a live round). Three of us were IPSC shooters at the time (one was the state section coordinator) and two carried slightly modified Colt series 70 guns and I carried a Colt Combat Commander (in condition 3, round in the chamber, hammer cocked, safety on) . One guy had a old Colt Trooper, one had a S&W 27 6 inch, one had a S&W 28 4 inch, and later on one guy had a S&W 439. Officers provided their own guns and were responsible for any repairs.

Later I got hired by a department that issued the Sig 226, then the DAK Sig and then the Glock 22. They just authorized officers to carry any Glock 9mm or .40 cal and Trijicon or Vortex RDS sights are authorized but the officer has to buy them and provide an appropriate Safariland duty holster. If you elect to carry a 9mm, you have to provide your own training ammo. (Vortex is a local vendor and we have shot on their stylish new indoor range a few times for inservice.)

Not every instructor is a "gun guy" (of course, most are NOT) and they may not be comfortable or competent training on multiple weapons platforms. And how many different armorer schools are you going to send your guys to, and how current are they going to be? I can understand why some agencies limit the number of weapons types in use. As always, it's good to have an option to accommodate shooters with smaller hands. A Glock 17/22 is just too big in the circumference of the grip for some people, and authorizing a grip reduction or another gun is a good option.