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kssoftwareman
01-08-2019, 08:52 AM
Any plans for Tac Medicine classes in the Midwest in 2019?

Gabriel Suarez
01-08-2019, 09:55 AM
Unlikely

kssoftwareman
01-08-2019, 11:53 AM
Bummer, thanks Gabe. Where generally are these classes held?

Gabriel Suarez
01-08-2019, 12:04 PM
Can't say. We stopped teaching them a while ago.

kssoftwareman
01-08-2019, 12:14 PM
Copy that, thank you Gabe.

Greg Nichols
01-08-2019, 01:38 PM
Given the right turnout me and SUA could put one on. You do the leg work for interested parties and we'll see if we can make it happen.

Badger
01-08-2019, 04:27 PM
Given the right turnout me and SUA could put one on. You do the leg work for interested parties and we'll see if we can make it happen.

Greg,

I can probably host one in the Spring. I’ve alrea got a couple of people interested.

kssoftwareman
01-08-2019, 04:54 PM
Badger what is your AO?

Badger
01-08-2019, 05:09 PM
Badger what is your AO?

I live in KC but I have a farm near Kirksville. Iíve hosted a couple of things up there before.

psalms23dad
01-08-2019, 05:50 PM
Not to step toes but I have access to a dojo in Lenexa. Might be a plan "B" if a needed. Obviously I'll have to clear it on my end with the owner, just throwing it out there.

kssoftwareman
01-08-2019, 06:22 PM
Either AO would be solid for guys in KC, St Joe, Topeka...

Forklift
01-09-2019, 04:39 PM
Just posting so I can keep track of this. Any of those spots would be perfect for me..

psalms23dad
01-09-2019, 04:53 PM
I'm interested too. Can't commit as I am budgeting for what I hope is a fall force on force class in Presscott.
So depending on price and date I'm very interested.

hunterjoe
01-09-2019, 06:03 PM
I would be interested.

Greg Nichols
01-15-2019, 09:40 AM
Ok so starting to get this pinned down as long as we have the commitment level we should be able to get it on the calendar for spring/early summer. My thoughts on this is we'll do a gentleman's style course, without live fire, that will focus on self aid, aid, casualty evac, and down/disabled mobility and weapon manipulations.

SUA SPONTE
01-15-2019, 11:38 AM
Let me know what you guys want and we can make it happen.... My CONUS schedule forecast for this year is May-June, Sept-Oct, Jan-Feb

Greg Nichols
01-15-2019, 12:24 PM
As this will be a boutique, gentleman's, non-shooting, class we will be able to handle a slightly larger than normal class size dependent on venue.

Forklift
01-15-2019, 02:13 PM
I hope this comes together...

kssoftwareman
01-15-2019, 03:49 PM
I too hope it materializes.

Greg Nichols
01-22-2019, 06:26 PM
We are forming up content. We have confirmed Chef and his 2 boys, badger that's 4 so who would commit? If Sua is going to carve his limited time out while CONUS with his family I want real numbers for who will come to this. This will be heavily medical and will be highly beneficial for even those who dont expect battlefield injury, for those who keep track Sua did surgery on me at his breakfast table and I documented it with pics. This will be that relevant of a class but I need real numbers for a weekend class.

C.J. Singleton
01-22-2019, 07:48 PM
We are forming up content. We have confirmed Chef and his 2 boys, badger that's 4 so who would commit? If Sua is going to carve his limited time out while CONUS with his family I want real numbers for who will come to this. This will be heavily medical and will be highly beneficial for even those who dont expect battlefield injury, for those who keep track Sua did surgery on me at his breakfast table and I documented it with pics. This will be that relevant of a class but I need real numbers for a weekend class.The man stitched up his own forehead in a mirror with a TBI SME does not begin to describe him.

I need a med refresher and the better half needs med training we're getting married in October we dont have any other major travel planned this year so all we need is dates and cost.

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deadly_risk
01-23-2019, 03:44 AM
I'm interested, but if it's late May or any time in October I can't commit until closer in.

Just about any other time and I'll move whatever I need to to make this one.

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kssoftwareman
01-23-2019, 06:47 AM
I am good to go this summer. What AO?

Greg Nichols
01-23-2019, 06:55 AM
I am good to go this summer. What AO?

MO. Still pinning down exactly where but likely KC or Kirksville

kssoftwareman
01-23-2019, 07:55 AM
KC would be great Greg. There are WT'ers in the AO.

techguy90
01-23-2019, 08:09 AM
Very interested in this class. If it's KC area I would make it work to go to this class whenever it is.
If Kirksville I would still try and make it, but it would depend on when it is.

DavySprocket
01-23-2019, 08:17 AM
June would be better than May for me.

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Sleestak
01-23-2019, 11:13 PM
As long as I don't have any Army requirements, I'm in too. I'm in OKC so a KC class is too easy.

Forklift
02-10-2019, 10:01 AM
Is this still in the planning phase?

I just don't want to loose track of it.

Another vote for KC here.

Greg Nichols
02-10-2019, 01:15 PM
Yes. Liking like June. Should have exact dates/location pinned down shortly.

Forklift
02-11-2019, 03:51 PM
Excellent, looking forward to it.

kssoftwareman
02-12-2019, 06:47 AM
Very good, thanks Greg.

Badger
03-14-2019, 02:51 PM
Update,

It looks like I will hosting this course on June 29/30 in the Kirksville, MO area at a private location. Sua and Greg will be instructing. Greg will have the class sign up posted in the near future with additional information, reporting instructions, etc.

More to follow.

Greg Nichols
03-14-2019, 03:04 PM
The response on here and Facebook has been really strong. I will be posting the class link in this thread and on Facebook so it will likely fill quickly. This is a boutique class that's not on the normal menu that will be heavily medical and will cover more than just GSW, pressure dressing, and TQ use.

Hasher
03-14-2019, 03:19 PM
While I was hoping for KC I think the statute of limitations has well expired in Kirksville.

looking forward to the details.

spwz99
03-14-2019, 07:13 PM
I’m also in KC and interested. Subscribing for details.

Forklift
03-16-2019, 09:00 AM
can we get a heads up here first? This is in my AO and I don't want to miss it.

kssoftwareman
04-16-2019, 08:17 AM
can we get a heads up here first? This is in my AO and I don't want to miss it.

Gree, me as well. When do you expect this to be posted?
A

Greg Nichols
04-16-2019, 08:38 AM
Gree, me as well. When do you expect this to be posted?
A

I will be submitting today. I had computer issues (knocking over a cup of coffee into my tower) and had to rewrite the description for the class as it's different from TMCO.

kssoftwareman
04-16-2019, 09:04 AM
I will be submitting today. I had computer issues (knocking over a cup of coffee into my tower) and had to rewrite the description for the class as it's different from TMCO.

Electrons and water don't usually get along Greg. Been there, done that.

Greg Nichols
04-30-2019, 02:49 PM
I was actually able to talk to Sua in Africa this weekend. He is going to send me a new description NLT Wed. so I can get it posted. He's planning a bunch of demos you aren't going to get anywhere else (Who wants to see me get a battlefield blood transfusion?). Hold tight gang. Dates and location will remain the same.

kssoftwareman
06-06-2019, 07:16 AM
At one point there was talk of a June Tac Medicine course in the Kansas CIty Missouri area conducted by Greg and perhaps Sua. I recently noticed that there are no medical courses being offered by SI. Is this just a matter of instructor availability or is there a change in course offerings? A tactical medicine course would be beneficial imho.

Thanks guys.

Greg Nichols
06-06-2019, 07:22 AM
This class will happen but we are probably going to need to push back the date. Sua was out of pocket on the dark continent until a couple days ago so we didn't have a complete class description that we could post. This will be a boutique class and not a standard offering and will go deep into immediate aid for Trauma as well as demo some rarely seen field medicine.

kssoftwareman
06-06-2019, 07:37 AM
Greg this sounds solid, it will be worth the date push back. Thanks brother.

kssoftwareman
06-16-2019, 05:29 PM
Greg this sounds solid, it will be worth the date push back. Thanks brother.

Greg any idea when you and Sua might be available to do the class? Pretty much the entire midwest is holding its breath 2fbrother.

Greg Nichols
06-17-2019, 08:06 AM
He had a bunch of things to get nailed down after being OCONUS for 3 months and since this will be heavily geared for trauma treatment it's not something I can do on my own. I'll follow up today with the host and Sua.

kssoftwareman
06-17-2019, 12:19 PM
Understand Greg, thank you for the update.

Greg Nichols
06-19-2019, 08:33 AM
Ok we are looking at Aug 3-4. I should have it up this week for registration.

spwz99
06-19-2019, 11:09 AM
Looking forward to it. It'll cost me a few days of PTO around that weekend to make up for the fact that Mama will be left at home alone with a 3 year old and a 6 month old for two days while I'm out playing, but she's on board. Let's get that sign up posted before she changes her mind and I have to renegotiate terms!!

kssoftwareman
06-19-2019, 02:32 PM
Thanks for the update. What is the final location Greg?

Greg Nichols
06-19-2019, 02:44 PM
Outside of Kirksville MO, it's hosted by a federal LEO so enrollees will get a rally point/time and we'll wagon train out to the site from there.

kssoftwareman
06-19-2019, 04:36 PM
Outstanding Greg.

kssoftwareman
06-20-2019, 07:09 AM
Greg do you see any upside in bringing weaponry other than EDC? This is a tac med course but will there be any rounds down range?

Badger
06-20-2019, 03:54 PM
Greg do you see any upside in bringing weaponry other than EDC? This is a tac med course but will there be any rounds down range?

I’m sure Greg will be along shortly to answer but, the last time we discussed it, all the gun work will revolve around “down and disabled” and one hand manipulations. Typically, all of this work can and should be done with an unloaded weapon. If it was me, I’d bring my EDC and/or something I was thinking about using as EDC. It’d be a good way to maybe test some new equipment. IMHO.

Greg Nichols
06-21-2019, 08:00 AM
I’m sure Greg will be along shortly to answer but, the last time we discussed it, all the gun work will revolve around “down and disabled” and one hand manipulations. Typically, all of this work can and should be done with an unloaded weapon. If it was me, I’d bring my EDC and/or something I was thinking about using as EDC. It’d be a good way to maybe test some new equipment. IMHO.
Correct, we will spend some time working on down and disabled as well as compromised position draws.

Greg Nichols
06-21-2019, 08:01 AM
With the current and emerging threats that are facing our world today simply relying on calling 911 and keeping yourself, or a loved one alive until “help” arrives is NOT always the option. This course teaches everything from pre-mission packing/planning and medical threat assessment to providing care in austere environments where the next level of care may be days away.

Students will learn the many differences of providing care in a tactical/wilderness setting. Whether it’s assessing a sprained ankle or treating a critically injured patient, students leave understanding how to provide care as a member of a team or as the sole medical provider in an austere setting where improvisation is key. Students should expect to be challenged mentally and physically.

kssoftwareman
06-21-2019, 08:54 AM
Thanks Badger and Greg. This will be outstanding training. Will it be posted fairly soon so we can register?

Greg Nichols
06-21-2019, 09:30 AM
I'll get it submitted this weekend since I got Sua's description this morning.

kssoftwareman
06-21-2019, 09:40 AM
Outstanding Greg, thank you.

jesselp
06-21-2019, 10:47 AM
Any prerequisites for this, or open to all?

Greg Nichols
06-21-2019, 12:22 PM
Open to all.

Greg Nichols
07-08-2019, 02:41 PM
Ready for registration gang. Here you go: https://suarezinternational.com/rural-trauma-medicine-august-3-4-2019-kirksville-mo/?ctk=8e9eab6c-a9fd-4ab2-84c5-aaef9bc7d62d

Greg Nichols
07-10-2019, 03:18 PM
Make sure to get in fast gang this is going to fill quickly and there's only a couple weeks of registration so get on it.

DDS
07-16-2019, 03:47 AM
Greg,
Just signed myself and son up for the class. Hard to believe its been over four years since the first Kirksville, MO class. Would you like us to bring magazines with the spring and followers removed? Looking forward to seeing you and Sua again.

Greg Nichols
07-16-2019, 07:13 AM
Greg,
Just signed myself and son up for the class. Hard to believe its been over four years since the first Kirksville, MO class. Would you like us to bring magazines with the spring and followers removed? Looking forward to seeing you and Sua again.

That works but not a requirement.

Greg Nichols
07-18-2019, 09:09 AM
Just over 2 weeks out gang. Don't miss out.

Badger
07-18-2019, 04:21 PM
First one to say “I’m in” gets to punch Greg in the nuts.

SUA SPONTE
07-18-2019, 04:26 PM
I'M IN!!!!!

Greg Nichols
07-22-2019, 09:26 AM
First one to say “I’m in” gets to punch Greg in the nuts.


I'M IN!!!!!

Well, thank god that it's a medical class. Anyone tries to punch me in the nuts is going to need it.

Only 10 days left to register. You guys asked for this class and I made it happen so let's get in and register, this thread has had over 7700 views so we should have enough interest to make it a great class.

Jim Miller
07-23-2019, 06:57 AM
Greg, this looks to be a great class. I'll be out of pocket at that time. Hope it's a success and I can make the next one.

Jim Miller
ISA 6:8

kssoftwareman
07-24-2019, 07:29 AM
I am out of town during the session unfortunately. Should be a great class. Hate having to miss.

Greg Nichols
07-29-2019, 08:16 AM
Only a couple days out gang. We have some great things planned that you literally won't get anywhere else so don't miss out on the experience.

Greg Nichols
07-30-2019, 03:06 PM
Ok gang I just got the class roster, if you're not in by tomorrow you'll be out of luck.

Papa
07-30-2019, 05:07 PM
Couldn't get off for this one. Got sent to county training on Saturday instead, 3 whole hours. At least it was taught by some .mil including the doc. But LEO (all two of us) got separated out because it was deemed unnecessary for us to know anything beyond TQs, wound packing, moving off the X and such.

Never mind the fact that any call I'm on may be 20-40 minutes from Aid or backup. Still, it was a refresher--I didn't know or had forgotten that a CAT is a one-use only item--so have a spare for practice.

Next time I'll be ronin, and get to do it right.

mike28w
07-30-2019, 05:23 PM
Re: the CAT being a one time use product. I didn't know that. Did they explain why it's a one timer ?? mike

Papa
07-30-2019, 05:35 PM
1. If used in the field, it's gonna get stuff on it, and the windlass is gonna get screwed down tight. And conditions allowing, you'll Sharpie the time onto the white retaining tab.
2. Repeated practice use frays the band, and makes it harder to deploy one-handed and to thread through the D-ring.

mike28w
07-30-2019, 05:51 PM
1. If used in the field, it's gonna get stuff on it, and the windlass is gonna get screwed down tight. And conditions allowing, you'll Sharpie the time onto the white retaining tab.
2. Repeated practice use frays the band, and makes it harder to deploy one-handed and to thread through the D-ring.

Learned something today ! Thanks ! mike

Bold
07-30-2019, 09:39 PM
If you use it in the field, it is gone anyway - the EMTs take it to the hospital with the patient and even if you are going there for some reason, too, you will not care about getting your (possibly icky and written on) TQ back and neither will anyone else.
So that is self-correcting ;)


The big thing to avoid is constant training use which stretches and frays the band and puts a lot of stress on the plastic (for CATs) windlass. You don't want to have the windlass break the one time you use it for real.
Have a training TQ and a "real" one.

Greg Nichols
07-30-2019, 09:44 PM
If you dont have pristine TQs for real use and practice TQs to train with you're being cheap and stupid. This is life saving equipment that's inexpensive. Dont risk your life to save 20 bucks.