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Jon Payne
12-21-2018, 02:31 PM
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CRG-4: FORCE ON FORCE GUNFIGHTING
May 18-19, 2019
Orange, Texas
Instructor: Jon Payne

Ever wonder what you'd do if a psycho with a knife charged at you? Or how you'd really handle a multiple adversary situation?
FIND OUT FOR CERTAIN IN OUR INTERACTIVE GUNFIGHTING TRAINING!!
Force on Force is the future of personal combat training. This course is Pure CQB Gunfighting Skills, and will connect what you do on the range with what you must do on the street to win a fight.
Typical marksmanship-based gun training leaves many questions unanswered. There is a great deal that you still don't know about street combat if all you've done is shoot paper targets on a shooting range. Even the many "shoothouse" exercises at many gun schools are still woefully inadequate in preparing you for a street confrontation. But in this class, the training is pure street reality featuring high intensity, short duration combat at close range against live human beings with modern force on force technology. It is specifically designed for the private citizen and focuses on civilian street situations. Learn to defend against a single adversary bent on cutting you with a training knife, as well as against multiple adversaries suddenly drawing guns and firing at you. Learn what it takes to overcome home invaders, takeover robbers, hostage takers and active shooters! In today's environment, everyone has a need to know.
The training is open to ALL civilian students AT ANY SKILL LEVEL, and is the sort of class you can attend over and over again to maintain your edge!! Fight-focused NOT Gun-focused!

ENROLL HERE (https://suarezinternational.com/crg-4-force-on-force-gunfighting-may-18-19-2019-orange-tx/)

Jon Payne
12-22-2018, 08:56 AM
All those classes that have taught you super cool ninja stuff probably didn't let you test your skills against anything but paper. Come see if you can win a gunfight.

john.c.perkins.9
12-23-2018, 09:29 AM
If I had to choose one training in 2019 this is it.

Perkins

Jon Payne
12-24-2018, 01:54 PM
If I had to choose one training in 2019 this is it.

Perkins

Yeah, Im going to make you work in this one.


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C.J. Singleton
12-26-2018, 12:17 PM
Mentioned it to the better half she instantly said ok WE are going. I wish they made an airsoft glock 43 or 42 I did find an umarex walther PPS M2 I think that's as good as it's going to get its smaller than a G19 at least.

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Jon Payne
12-26-2018, 02:19 PM
Mentioned it to the better half she instantly said ok WE are going. I wish they made an airsoft glock 43 or 42 I did find an umarex walther PPS M2 I think that's as good as it's going to get its smaller than a G19 at least.

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This is going to be a great group. Shes going to love it.


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Jon Payne
12-27-2018, 10:37 AM
Knowing how to run your pistol and being able to hit what you're shooting at are both highly important to being able to stop a bad guy. The problem I see is paper and steel are very limited to the amount of feedback and realism they provide. Through my military and law enforcement training I've found force on force to be a valuable tool. It's not as gratifying as shooting small groups on paper or ringing steel and you can do everything right and still get "stung". I find there's no better way to test your tactics, techniques, and carry gear (minus real gun and ammo).

Jon Payne
12-27-2018, 06:54 PM
Mistakes made in FoF cause embarrassment; mistakes in the world cause fatalities and casualties.

You and everyone else learn from your mistakes, while everyone but you learns from your death.

(Yall writing any of this golden sage shit down?) [emoji41]


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Jon Payne
01-01-2019, 08:49 AM
Start getting your gear ready now! There are several sources for Airsoft/Co2/Green Gas and we're working on UTM equipment. Every person that carries a gun should sign up and attend a FoF course. Badge or no badge, GI or scum sucking civilian, this is a class you need and you'll learn more about yourself and your capabilities than in any live fire course.

Jon Payne
01-04-2019, 08:15 AM
Get off the fence and get signed up for CRG-4 FoF. It's the most interactive training class you'll attend short of 0-5 Feet Gunfighting.

john.c.perkins.9
01-04-2019, 08:53 PM
I'm in the process of changing my vacation plans.

Perkins

Jon Payne
01-16-2019, 08:20 AM
You're going to love this class. I'll just leave it at that.
I'm in the process of changing my vacation plans.

Perkins

Jon Payne
01-29-2019, 07:40 AM
My current place of employment has just discovered FoF for all uniformed personnel. The initial bitching and whining has turned into "we should've been doing this years ago". Compared to SI, most LE and Mil training is still behind the curve. Get signed up for my CRG-4 in Orange. You'll never look at training or gunfighting the same way again.

Jon Payne
01-31-2019, 04:11 PM
This class is shaping up very nicely. It's already 1/3 of the way full. The more the merrier with this one!

Jon Payne
03-03-2019, 02:21 PM
Join me in Force on Force and put your skills to the test!

Jon Payne
03-07-2019, 11:30 AM
There are spots open for this FOF course. There are NO PREREQUISITES for this course. The training is open to ALL civilian students AT ANY SKILL LEVEL, and is the sort of class you can attend over and over again to maintain your edge!! Fight-focused NOT Gun-focused!

Huntindoc
03-16-2019, 06:15 AM
Got my spot. Looking forward to learning from you again!

AFSOCCRNA
03-16-2019, 06:34 AM
Got my spot. Looking forward to learning from you again!

Wish I could be there. We are making changes in our work life so we can do more things that we enjoy. I’ll definitely get with you and Jon for another awesome class ASAP

Jon Payne
03-16-2019, 08:15 AM
Awesome! FOF is always a learning experience!
Got my spot. Looking forward to learning from you again!

Jon Payne
03-16-2019, 08:16 AM
You're welcome anytime my friend.
Wish I could be there. We are making changes in our work life so we can do more things that we enjoy. I’ll definitely get with you and Jon for another awesome class ASAP

ToddC
03-16-2019, 12:23 PM
Jumped off the fence, this ones gonna be a blast! Ready to drink from the fire hose...

Jon Payne
03-17-2019, 12:46 PM
That's great brother!
Jumped off the fence, this ones gonna be a blast! Ready to drink from the fire hose...

john.c.perkins.9
04-05-2019, 09:05 AM
I was holding out on spending money till after my Union Contract Negotiations. Couldn't hold out. Got my order confirmation yesterday!

Perkins

Jon Payne
04-05-2019, 09:30 AM
I was holding out on spending money till after my Union Contract Negotiations. Couldn't hold out. Got my order confirmation yesterday!

Perkins

Awesome. FoF is one of the most beneficial courses you can take.


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john.c.perkins.9
04-05-2019, 09:35 AM
I need to buy some gear. I do not own a gas gun. If I need a holster I prefer to buy a cheap holster similar to what I carry.

Any suggestions?

Perkins

Jon Payne
04-09-2019, 01:51 AM
Just over a month out on this one and we're just over half full. Get signed up for one of the most humbling yet rewarding courses SI offers.

Jon Payne
04-15-2019, 01:27 PM
We are down to just few openings. Get off the fence and get signed up. You won't regret it!

Jon Payne
04-21-2019, 06:33 AM
Looks to be about 6 spots left in this class. I can't stress the importance of testing your skill sets enough. CRG-4 FoF is a force on force class just about anyone can attend. There are NO COMBATIVES in this course. The more people we have in Force on Force, the better.

john.c.perkins.9
04-24-2019, 12:29 PM
Bought my first Air Soft Co2 gun last week for this class. The model I picked up was the metal slide licensed Glock 19.
My mind set is different from the little spring load pistols and electric Air Soft guns I have messed with.
I plan to go back to Academy and get another model that is a blow back design. Doing a false press check or racking of the slide is just messing up my flow.
I believe I can return the Glock model for a refund but may keep it just for a back up. Any suggestions?

Perkins

Jon Payne
04-26-2019, 10:31 AM
Bought my first Air Soft Co2 gun last week for this class. The model I picked up was the metal slide licensed Glock 19.
My mind set is different from the little spring load pistols and electric Air Soft guns I have messed with.
I plan to go back to Academy and get another model that is a blow back design. Doing a false press check or racking of the slide is just messing up my flow.
I believe I can return the Glock model for a refund but may keep it just for a back up. Any suggestions?

Perkins

https://www.evike.com/brands/604/GLOCK/

john.c.perkins.9
04-26-2019, 10:43 AM
How important is a blow back design in Force on force training?

Perkins

Jon Payne
04-26-2019, 01:46 PM
It's not IMHO, but I'll take it if I can get it.
How important is a blow back design in Force on force training?

Perkins

john.c.perkins.9
04-26-2019, 01:48 PM
This is the non blowback model. At local Academy 4 in stock if anyone needs a replacement while there in the class.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190426/cb632767ef06307ef2d5371dee53b6c9.jpg

Perkins

john.c.perkins.9
04-26-2019, 03:48 PM
Here is a $60 blowback air soft gun at Academy.
https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/tactical-force-6xp-6mm-caliber-airsoft-pistol#repChildCatid=1584532

I won't get to check it out until Sunday.

Perkins

Jon Payne
04-26-2019, 07:04 PM
Here is a $60 blowback air soft gun at Academy.
https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/tactical-force-6xp-6mm-caliber-airsoft-pistol#repChildCatid=1584532

I won't get to check it out until Sunday.

Perkins

I pray by my next FoF Class well all be using UTM or an equivalent.


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john.c.perkins.9
04-26-2019, 07:08 PM
I can see now the limitations with the Air Soft guns. I fumbled a good bit Sun doing the Pistol Kata that I have been working on.

Perkins

Jon Payne
04-27-2019, 02:29 PM
There are some open spots for this course. Get off the fence and get signed up. It will be one of the most educational weekends of your life.

john.c.perkins.9
04-28-2019, 04:02 PM
Not so much of a review on the $60 Academy gun, but a big approval on the blow back feature. It's what I was missing.
For all you Glock Fan boys if you plan on throwing this thing in the closet get the $70 glock with out blow back. If you want something to train with down the road the Blow Back feature is nice.
If you want a few to train with and your not worried about matching your holsters this $60 blow back design model seems affordable enough to buy a couple.

Perkins

Jon Payne
05-03-2019, 03:13 PM
Two weeks out and we have a few openings. We already have a very nice group and we have room for more!

Jon Payne
05-12-2019, 02:38 PM
5 days out. We have a couple of openings. There will be some UTM gear there to get your feet wet with. I know at least one person who will have UTM conversions.

Jon Payne
05-14-2019, 04:25 PM
There are some spots open in this class. Get off the fence! This is some of the most important training you can attend to further your training. Join us and slaughter some DRAGONS! (I mean sacred cows lol)