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Hammer27
05-29-2018, 10:49 AM
Seems familiar to me...

http://soldiersystems.net/2018/05/29/sofic-18-possible-glock-sub-compact-weapon-concept/

Gabriel Suarez
05-29-2018, 11:01 AM
Amazing.

Brent Yamamoto
05-29-2018, 11:45 AM
Cue Mugato: I feel like I'm taking crazy pills

Greg Nichols
05-29-2018, 11:51 AM
Well at least someone in the comments section gave credit to SI for innovating it.

Papa
05-29-2018, 12:29 PM
Not seeing a RDS.

Maybe Gaston will farm that out to SI.

What?

WinstonSmith
06-04-2018, 04:59 PM
I’d rather have the semiauto with the RMR.

Gabriel Suarez
06-05-2018, 09:25 AM
https://vimeo.com/273534152

Christopher Calhoun
06-05-2018, 10:53 AM
This taking credit for Gabe’s ideas in the industry is becoming a bit embarrassing to watch. Companies “innovate” something he started almost a decade ago now and call it better but let’s be real, having to send in your RMR with the slide is was the first stupid thing I ever heard of...then we can go from there. <shakes head in disgust>






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Gabriel Suarez
06-06-2018, 10:20 AM
Want to see what the industry will "invent" next year?

Go see what we were doing last year.

barnetmill
06-06-2018, 06:29 PM
Glock is offering it on their G18 platform, but no information if anything is being done to slow the down the FA cyclic rate of it or at least set it up as burst fire was not mentioned. I am quite sure as is everyone here that it was inspired by SI work on the glock platform.

noonesshowmonkey
06-18-2018, 12:38 PM
Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

The PDW that you all banged out was some serious no-shit clandestine killing gear. The same concept running 357 Sig lets you take easy shots out to 100m on demand.

Really impressive stuff.

That the SOCOM community is emulating / promulgating this concept must be a great validation of the kind of innovation and work that you all put into this concept. Bravo. Art imitating life imitating art, one 147gr HST at a time.

Red Ryder
06-19-2018, 09:43 AM
Reminds me of the development of .50 cal long range rifles by civilians that led the military to adopting the concept for use in our desert wars. Used to be more common when civilians could design and build firearms without the regulations that exist today. Wasn't the M1 Carbine a civilian design originally?

The military at least deserves credit for considering something we all know to be good, but as usual, it loses something in the translation and they rarely ask the originator for help. Sheesh.

Gabriel Suarez
06-19-2018, 09:58 AM
Which is why I do not give them any discounts when the want to buy.

Jim Miller
06-19-2018, 06:42 PM
From the picture, looks like they left the sites stock, no manual safety, no red dot and that vertical foregrip that will catch on everything it can. I never cared for the three round burst option either, I'd pass on this one and head to a shop I know in AZ.....

Jim Miller
ISA 6:8

Coolhand77
06-23-2018, 09:39 AM
that foregrip has ONE thing going for it.
The base pulls out and acts as a trigger guard cover when it is folded into the horizontal position. They sell them with the K-POS for that very reason [I got one to tinker with years ago just for my own edification. Sold it after getting the Endo]. The down side to this is your pistol will have to be a registered SBR to keep it legal.

Brent Yamamoto
06-23-2018, 09:52 AM
And the foregrip will also flex the frame, detrimental to accuracy. That may not matter up close but it will matter when greater accuracy is required.

No thanks. Better to stick with an actual safety.

Also, one of the benefits of the Glock PDW is running it like a pistol. The manual of arms isn’t exactly the same, but close. I don’t understand why so many think the foregrip is such a great thing.

Coolhand77
06-23-2018, 02:38 PM
never said it was a great thing, just that it had one side benifit that most people are missing on that particular unit. With the soon to be available "metal glock frames", if they live up to the hype, it might not be as much of a flex issue.

Personally I use one of the trigger guard cup [like the NPE-2] type "not holsters" connected to a lanyard for a safety...but thats because something about cutting a slot in my frame for a thumb safety that it wasn't designed for makes me a little twitchy. Have it on a short lanyard to the ENDO and its there to "reengage" when you need to sling up.
YMMV

Papa
06-23-2018, 08:19 PM
Testing a TSSG this week--user-installable striker safety with ambi levers. Not too bad from a user standpoint on the PDW. Not suitable for an EDC. It's polymer and may lack durability. Will report results.

coffeemonster
10-09-2018, 08:22 AM
any thoughts or history with the B&T USW? ... basically a Swiss CZ clone with a folding stock. They added a frame to convert Sig P320s
Might SI be looking at something similar to reduce the number of interfaces in a non-stock Glock?
It’s also a tad more concealable than the current gen PDW

John McCreery
10-10-2018, 05:39 AM
any thoughts or history with the B&T USW? ... basically a Swiss CZ clone with a folding stock. They added a frame to convert Sig P320s
Might SI be looking at something similar to reduce the number of interfaces in a non-stock Glock?
It’s also a tad more concealable than the current gen PDW

Welcome. Yes, it has been discussed here: http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?133661-Swiss-B-amp-T-Universal-Service-weapon-w-stock-amp-aimpoint