View Full Version : Quote for the Day - "Because they had no claws"
Gabriel Suarez
05-16-2018, 12:23 PM
“Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws”,
Nietzsche wrote in Thus Spoke Zarathustra
Brent Yamamoto
05-16-2018, 12:59 PM
So relevant in today's culture!
I'm in the middle of Jordan Peterson's book. He references Nietzche a fair amount. And I don't recall that he tied the point to Nietzche, but Peterson makes the point that being incapable of violence does not make you good. Being capable of violence but then making the choice when to appropriately use it makes you good.
Something that we may have discussed many times here...
Gabriel Suarez
05-16-2018, 01:09 PM
Setsuninto katsujinken
The sword that takes life and the sword that gives life...
Cody C
05-16-2018, 05:50 PM
The Jordan Peterson book is amazing. It should be required reading in high school.
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Greg Nichols
05-16-2018, 05:53 PM
Weakness without challenge won't reveal good or evil. Your response to challenge, when you're weak, reveals much.
Bob F.
06-26-2018, 12:33 PM
Which book: "12 Rules"???
(Wasn't happy with a google search)
apamburn
06-26-2018, 12:35 PM
12 Rules discusses the quotes previously mentioned, not sure if Maps of Meaning does.
Bob F.
06-26-2018, 12:37 PM
Thanks!
WinstonSmith
06-28-2018, 12:35 PM
So relevant in today's culture!
I'm in the middle of Jordan Peterson's book. He references Nietzche a fair amount. And I don't recall that he tied the point to Nietzche, but Peterson makes the point that being incapable of violence does not make you good. Being capable of violence but then making the choice when to appropriately use it makes you good.
Something that we may have discussed many times here...
Did you catch his interview on the Joe Rogan podcast? One thing that stood out to me is that Jordan Peterson did a lecture series on Bible verses, and got stuck on "Blessed are the meek, for they inherit the earth." As he said in the podcast: "Huh, that doesn't seem to make much sense." So he started digging into what scholars have said about the word "meek" over the years-- I had never heard this and it resonates with what you just wrote: "meek" doesn't mean some person who sheepishly lurks in the shadows (my interpretation) ... it refers to the person who is capable but knows how/when to sheath his sword in self-restraint.
Mental note: I need to dig into that and validate that definition myself.
Brent Yamamoto
06-28-2018, 01:16 PM
Did you catch his interview on the Joe Rogan podcast? One thing that stood out to me is that Jordan Peterson did a lecture series on Bible verses, and got stuck on "Blessed are the meek, for they inherit the earth." As he said in the podcast: "Huh, that doesn't seem to make much sense." So he started digging into what scholars have said about the word "meek" over the years-- I had never heard this and it resonates with what you just wrote: "meek" doesn't mean some person who sheepishly lurks in the shadows (my interpretation) ... it refers to the person who is capable but knows how/when to sheath his sword in self-restraint.
Mental note: I need to dig into that and validate that definition myself.
I did not catch the Joe Rogan interview, but I know that's what Peterson found. I'm assuming it was in the 12 Rules book but don't remember....I've watched quite a bit of Peterson's stuff now.
There are a lot of things in the bible that are misunderstood, not least of which are very particular definitions that are lost in translation.
I listened to Dennis Prager's book "The Rational Bible" earlier this year. It covers the book of Exodus and there's a fair amount of definitional stuff in there. "Oh yeah, that makes much more sense."
Of course the big example is the commandment against "murder" and how so many think it means "kill". But there are a lot more.
One that comes to mind is taking the Lord's name in vain. Prager says that what that really means is people committing evil in the name of God, based on what the original Hebrew said. Which makes a lot more sense. God says it's the one commandment he won't forgive...which makes not a bit of sense if you think saying "God damn it" is gonna send you to hell, meanwhile murder can be forgiven.
Words mean things.
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