View Full Version : PERHAPS WE NEED A "HISTORICAL" SECTION
Gabriel Suarez
03-30-2016, 07:14 AM
https://youtu.be/pT-b73Y93io
EDELWEISS
03-30-2016, 07:20 AM
YES ABSOLUTELY
BeardedPelican
03-30-2016, 07:41 AM
That would be nice.
Dorkface
03-30-2016, 08:11 AM
No.... Please no. The last thing we need is more mental masturbation about old crap; There's enough of that already...
jlwilliams
03-30-2016, 08:26 AM
I'm as guilty as the next guy on the charge of mental masturbation over old guns. I really dig me some C&R blasters. If there was a section here, I'd be on it. That said, the net is full of places to indulge that urge. No reason to not post articles about the occasional old gun if interest. Case in point, the articles and pictures about stocked pistols were cool and were relevant to current braced pistols. By the same token, there is no need to dedicate a section to the stuff that is covered well on forgotten weapons et all.
BeardedPelican
03-30-2016, 08:36 AM
No.... Please no. The last thing we need is more mental masturbation about old crap; There's enough of that already...
Personally I don't see it degenerating into an arfcom fest. If we keep it under the guise of historical use and not entertain questions like "how viable is this design today?' That may just keep it to good discussions and information.
But you do making a valid point I don't think having discussions about the Garbage Rod Nagant is a good thing since we are more about the modern and excellent items.
John Chambers
03-30-2016, 04:43 PM
Historical accuracy and in depth warrior growth would be good, but it must be REAL.
H60DoorGunner
03-30-2016, 04:53 PM
Yes please. I think we're mature enough to not have discussions about "if an Ishapore 2a1 would be an effective budget battle rifle"...sort of like I read on another forum not to be named.
While we are about modern quality and excellence here, there is a challenge and a certain pleasure that comes with shooting antique firearms. I personally enjoy my antiques more than my modern firearms. On the range at least. The only thing I shoot with them other than paper or steel, is the occasional deer or bear.
Jon Payne
03-30-2016, 06:09 PM
History and context are key to a warrior's study. I'm all for it.
Sgt. Psycho
03-30-2016, 06:50 PM
As far as accuracy and "historical" weapons go, I cut my teeth as a youth with a Swiss K-31, including taking one whitetail at over 400yds with just the irons. I generally dropped deer in their tracks or did not have to track them very far after hitting them with that Norma 7.5x55 round, but I really had to pay attention to fundamentals to do that. That rifle was capable of better accuracy than I could accomplish with it, and I now feel privileged to have learned fundamentals with that rifle, though at the time I was jealous of my friends whose Dads bought them more modern rifles and optics.
Jake Salyards
03-30-2016, 06:57 PM
History and context are key to a warrior's study. I'm all for it.
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LawDog
03-30-2016, 06:59 PM
No.... Please no. The last thing we need is more mental masturbation about old crap; There's enough of that already...And if it's in its own sub-forum, you can always just not visit that sub-forum.
I like guns. And I have a compulsive desire to accumulate as much useless trivia as possible. Useful trivia is even better.
Creating sub-forums often serves the purpose of promoting a particular area of thought. But it also serves to simply organize the material that is already present. And we get enough material in this genre that it might make sense to have such a sub-forum.
Jamison
03-30-2016, 07:07 PM
Why does a historical section have to be only about rifles and pistols? What about historical sword fighting, archery and other martial pursuits? I'm sure there is a lot the modern warrior can learn from studying the past.
Cacti Rat
03-30-2016, 07:16 PM
History and context are key to a warrior's study. I'm all for it.
I am a student of arms as it relates to the warrior. The study of all relevant historical developments in arms inspires me and drives me. As stated above, proper intellectual discipline as it relates to our study is essential so that we do not to lapse into the curio relics world's obsession with cartouches and variants.
Danneskjold
03-30-2016, 07:27 PM
I like guns. And I have a compulsive desire to accumulate as much useless trivia as possible. Useful trivia is even better.
Are we related?
BillyOblivion
03-30-2016, 07:29 PM
Are we related?
To about half the people who post here.
Mr. Anthony
03-30-2016, 08:09 PM
If I ever get Bruce Wayne money, I'm absolutely going to have a big ornate room full of museum-quality pieces chronicling the evolution of warriors throughout history...maybe starting around medieval times, maybe earlier. Viking swords, samurai armor, you name it, all the way up through modern firearms.
All functional.
H60DoorGunner
03-30-2016, 09:44 PM
...All functional.
Well yeah! Why would anyone buy a gun and not shoot it? If I had Bruce Wayne money, not only would I buy things like 1500's Spanish match lock rifles...but I would shoot them occasionally too!
Mike OTDP
04-01-2016, 11:00 AM
I've shot matchlocks. They're an interesting experience. They work great...if they work at all. But when you have a problem, it's usually a big problem. Like a match cord that you didn't place properly into the serpentine...and it didn't set off the priming powder. Best of luck getting it up and the pan covered.
You start realizing why the Three Musketeers wore swords. :-)
Kelveren
04-01-2016, 11:32 AM
On a forum called WarriorTalk, it makes more sense to discuss historically relevant and classic firearms than it does pickups, sports cars, or luxury watches. I do not have the budget or inclination to dig into the historical firearms, but I absolutely see the appeal, and I definitely see how it fits into the forum here.
EDELWEISS
04-02-2016, 02:37 PM
Knowledge of "other" than standard or Tier One Weapons, should be mandatory. Imagine being a Cop or Soldier or Citizen and coming upon a weapon and not knowing how to at least make is safe, if not use it. Hmmm, lets see a haji active shooter using a weapon we refuse to discuss and dont know how to unload it before passing on to the next threat? Im NOT suggesting an in depth instruction of the toggle action Garand in 762x54R with polymer stock and spike bayonet.... but interesting designs and potential threat firearms seems a requirement of anyone calling themselves a warrior. Consider that 10 years ago few of us wanted to discuss Stocked Pistols...........
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