WHO group, Bacon is bad you, causes cancer.

[barnetmill]

Claim that processed meat like sausage and bacon causes cancer. Red meats are also not good for you. This information was released by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) in a report published in the Lancet medical journal. Up to an 18% increase in colon cancer. Cooking over fire is said to raise the cancer risk.


Processed meat, such as bacon or hot dogs, causes cancer, a World Health Organization group said in a long-awaited determination on Monday. The group said red meat, including beef, pork and lamb, probably causes cancer, too. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/processed-meat-causes-cancer-red-meat-probably-does-group-says-n451396



It's not startling news - the evidence has been building for years that eating meat, especially processed and red meat, raises the risk of cancer (http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nightly-news/red-meat-linked-to-breast-cancer-risk-279217219827).
It's been linked with breast cancer, (http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/red-meat-possibly-linked-breast-cancer-study-suggests-n127921) colon cancer (http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/12/10654477-daily-serving-of-red-meat-raises-risk-of-cancer-heart-disease?lite) and may worsen prostate cancer. (http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/average-u-s-diet-may-kill-prostate-cancer-survivors-n367841)
"The experts concluded that each 50 gram portion of processed meat eaten daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 18 percent," the IARC said.

[BeardedPelican]

Depends on who pays for the research. I suppose that someone who has a vested interest in something other than the meat industry ponied up the cash for the research.

[BESEPUL]

Remember that bacon isn't only "bad" for you, it is also a highly "offensive" food.....

[DutchV]

World Health Organization? Part of the UN, right? Do they accomplish anything beyond their press releases?

Anything from those clowns is questionable.

[Texican_gal]

Surely it's the added chemicals. Don't need to preserve bacon with a huge dump of nitrates/nitrites that makes it super-salty. Try naturally cured bacon—mmmmmmmmm-mmm.

Watch out for personal prejudice injected into "science." Happens all the time. I had a doc who was raised Mormon, and personally doesn't like the taste of coffee (should be a red flag) and she still has a bias against it. When I quit coffee,* my blood pressure went up. Interesting, eh? There are compounds in coffee they still haven't researched. Coffee + bacon, God's mysterious gifts .....

* And yes, I drink coffee again.

[Gabriel Suarez]

Sounds like a load of politically correct horse shit, just like the food pyramid. Watch them say that what you should eat is a low fat, high starch diet...just like all the "healthy people" in friggin Africa.

Breakfast today.....wait for it.

Four eggs, and four slices of organic bacon...with a gallon of coffee.

KMA
WHO

[Greg Nichols]

IF my scrambled eggs with sausage gravy, 3 strips of bacon, and coffee causes cancer..... Give me the cancer.

[The rifleman next door]

yeah yeah yeah.....and when the Roman baths began to crumble & the "church" didn't want to pay for their upkeep and reconstruction during the middle ages they told everybody that bathing was a sin.....

[Texican_gal]

yeah yeah yeah.....and when the Roman baths began to crumble & the "church" didn't want to pay for their upkeep and reconstruction during the middle ages they told everybody that bathing was a sin.....

Dang, is that how it came about??

[The rifleman next door]

Dang, is that how it came about??

it's a theory that I heard on the internet....so it MUST be true right?

[Texican_gal]

it's a theory that I heard on the internet....so it MUST be true right?

If I had more time I'd look this stuff up with ahem—scholarly resources!

[barnetmill]

Honestly for meat most of this risk is thought to come from the manner of processing and how it is prepared. In worst case scenario they are giving you some sort percentage, but I which I like see presented as risk posted in understandable terms. This is one study. They may have prejudices, but I doubt anyone is paying them to defame meat.
If you ate meat raw much of the risk is gone. Although from raw meat then you can get tapeworm from beef and worst from pork.

[emtdaddy1980]

Meh, almost anything can cause cancer depending on who's finding the "science".

There is however irrefutable anecdotal proof that trying to take the andouille out of my homemade red beans and rice will get a fool shanked.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u646/emtdaddy/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151025_183205_zpsatn8vnpp.jpg (http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/emtdaddy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151025_183205_zpsatn8vnpp.jpg.html)

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[BeardedPelican]

Although from raw meat then you can get tapeworm from beef and worst from pork.

Yeah, trichinosis will ruin your day.

[barnetmill]

The bloke that pens the Art of Manliness blog did a four month test of eating four eggs and a slab of bacon along with Testosterone enhancing foods every day. He then got his cholesterol tested and the numbers were fine. I tend to trust the docs who are FITNESS oriented than the people with an agenda. A lot of that is what you have inherited genetically. There were times that I ate a tremendous amount of meat and not much else. Ratios for lipids of light versus heavy where good even even the total amount was high. Never had a problem with my heart yet and I am past 70. One young doctor got upset and I told him to look at the ratio which I believe was stated in laboratory report.

[The rifleman next door]

Meh, almost anything can cause cancer depending on who's finding the "science".

There is however irrefutable anecdotal proof that trying to take the andouille out of my homemade red beans and rice will get a fool shanked.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u646/emtdaddy/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151025_183205_zpsatn8vnpp.jpg (http://s1326.photobucket.com/user/emtdaddy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151025_183205_zpsatn8vnpp.jpg.html)

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makin' my stomach growl Holmes.

[BigEd63]

No pack of pasty faced scrawny granola crunching faggots are gonna tell me what to eat.

[EDELWEISS]

Bacon is what pigs give us when we are good boys and girls....

[Ragsbo]

This comes from the un group so I expect it has more to do with bacon and other processed foods being pork and since the USA is the major meat producing country; we of course have to be the devil incarnate! Like they say "Follow The Money!"

[Bob F.]

What Ragsbo said + a decade or so ago they said eggs were full of cholesterol and were like eating bombs for the heart and and that crap in diet soda (but NOT in beer) would cause our brains to explode ( if we drank 100 cases a day)!!!!!!!

I'm convinced: if we eat like the "scientists" advise we could live to be 150 yrs old, IF we didn't die of boredom!

[emtdaddy1980]

Makes me want to slow smoke some long pig....After removing the blue helmets of course.

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[barnetmill]

Makes me want to slow smoke some long pig....After removing the blue helmets of course.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk Eating people is really not good for the health. There was an area of New Guinea where some tribes would eat the people that died in their villages. They ended up with a prion disease that was like mad cow disease. Also for eating people since they live longer than the typical beef or pig have more time to accumulate toxins. Vegetarians are likely safer to consume than meat eaters. Not sure which would taste the best. See at wiki Kuru disease: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%28disease%29

[TangoFoxtrot]

Was cancer causing red meat grass fed or GMO modified grain feedlot fed?

[barnetmill]

Was cancer causing red meat grass fed or GMO modified grain feedlot fed? You have the tree huggers that say silly things about what causes cancer. Some people a while back had some problems with some GMO I think corn that made it to the grocery stores in some form or another. The GMO grain was suitable for cattle, but not intended for since people could not handle the type of starches that were in it as I understood it.
Grass fed beef are leaner and have less fat. Probably slightly safer in theory, but in practice I do not know.

When fat from the cooking meat drips down on the hot coals, the smoke that forms contains stuff called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cooked-meats) (PAH). And the charred exterior of the meat (or inside, if you like things extremely well-done) is chock full of something called heterocyclic amines (http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cooked-meats) (HCA).http://www.bonappetit.com/test-kitchen/cooking-tips/article/is-grilling-good-for-you-or-bad-here-s-what-science-says

[BigEd63]

Eating people is really not good for the health. There was an area of New Guinea where some tribes would eat the people that died in their villages. They ended up with a prion disease that was like mad cow disease. Also for eating people since they live longer than the typical beef or pig have more time to accumulate toxins. Vegetarians are likely safer to consume than meat eaters. Not sure which would taste the best. See at wiki Kuru disease: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%28disease%29

Vegetarian aka Eloi "The other white meat." I would not eat the brain or any internal organs only meat/muscle tissue.

[Web Services]

New flash: EVERYTHING causes cancer. The sun, water, food, chemicals, atmosphere, exercise, contacting other people, breathing, digesting, using a phone, wireless internet, exhaust fumes, cooking...

There are, at any given time, dozens to thousands of cancer cells in your body, but the body has ways of getting rid of them.

Some of the top ways of helping your body flush cancer cells:

1) Fasting. Intermittent fasting, or fast for at least 12 hours, has shown to kill cancerous cells.

2) Low to no sugar. Cancer can only feed on sugar. Periods of no sugar, or basically high fat ketogeic dieting can help.

3) Don't burn stuff, smoke, or consume actual carcinogens as much as possible. Charred meat (the black stuff) is carcinogenic, smoking, chemicals and toxins, yadda yadda.

4) Avoid processed chemicals. The human body just doesn't have a track record of consuming fake foods and things not found in nature, probably not a good idea.

5) Alkaline sometimes. It's ok to switch from an acid/carbonated drink to an alkaline drink sometimes. Eat your veggies. While cancer can't survive an alkaline environment, the research here is tricky. The stomach must be acid, and the blood must maintain perfect pH or else you die. But still, eating net alkaline foods is a good plan.

6) Don't stress. You'll get cancer from the stress of trying eat perfect and not get cancer. People who enjoy life and love stuff and have fun and don't stress live better lives.

Most people who die "from cancer" aren't dying from cancer at all, but from complications of trying to treat it. For people who DO have cancer, I certainly promote attempting natural treatments before turning to chemo. Using chemo every time for cancer is like nuking a country every time you find a bad guy there. Does nuking them kill the bad guy? Yes. But is it the best way to kill an enemy? Not if you want to avoid the collateral damage. Problem is, most health insurance won't support alternative therapies, so people are left trying to come with thousands of dollars a week to treat at larger healthy centers.

Anyway, I laugh at these studies, just lonely lab rats trying to keep up the grant money. If they wanted, they could prove eating lettuce or kale or beans or soy causes cancer too.

[PRDubi]

We should eat nothing and just die off...says every tree hugger in the world.

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[Greg Nichols]

According to Michael Douglas, giving oral sex to women is what caused his throat cancer (I'm sure it was that and not the smoking), but I ain't going to stop doing it.

In fact I think I'm going to start calling it Michael Douglasing or MDing for short in his honor for being rediculous.

[Warped Mindless]

If you stay healthy by generally eating right, exercising, and being as stress free as possible then even if you do get cancer there is a great chance you will survive it.

[Gabriel Suarez]

To the WHO...as something they may consider studying if their testicles ever descend into their scrotums (scroti?)

ISLAM is bad for you...it may cause you to lose your head.

[P.D.]

World Health Organization? Part of the UN, ...

Ah yes, the center of the known universe for hidden agendas and all wise and omnipotent masters of the world's famines, epidemics and pandemics since 1947.

[warriorscience4u]

Meat is good. Scotch is good. Honduran cigars are great.

Wasn't it the CDC scientists who recently contaminated their own entire facility, twice?

What to do with all these feral hogs? Deliver them to a Sharia Center, hanging on hoof?

[barnetmill]

Meat is good. Scotch is good. Honduran cigars are great.

Wasn't it the CDC scientists who recently contaminated their own entire facility, twice?

What to do with all these feral hogs? Deliver them to a Sharia Center, hanging on hoof? Feral hog populations in various places do carry disease and safety protocols are needed when handling the carcasses. Perhaps the Old Testament and the Koran were not completely wrong about avoiding swine.

[Gabriel Suarez]

http://www.wired.com/2015/10/who-does-bacon-cause-cancer-sort-of-but-not-really/

[DireWolf]

I'd like to see what the WHO has to say about eating soy...

[BESEPUL]

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[barnetmill]

I'd like to see what the WHO has to say about eating soy... The Omega-3 people have a lot of bad things to say about a diet that contains a lot plants oils such as are found in soy.
This is a summary of it from google:
The importance of the ratio of omega-6/omega-3 essential fatty acids. Several sources of information suggest that human beings evolved on a diet with a ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 essential fatty acids (EFA) of approximately 1 whereas in Western diets the ratio is 15/1-16.7/1. Plants are low in the useful omega-3's and a ratio close to one is thought to result in less inflammatory responses in the body and overall better health. A correct diet did help a colleague and friend that has suffered arthritis for much of his adult life. Still not to my knowledge absolutely proven, but taking moderate amounts of omega-3 fish and krill does not hurt with the exception of slower blood clotting.
So yes some people do think a lot of vegetable oils including those from soy are bad for your health. It may actually be better to eat seafood than oils extracted from them. Must come from fish living in the oceans and fresh water fish are not good and in fact fresh water fish like fried cat fish is not good for you if vegetable based oils are used in the cooking. The thought is that current state of high blood pressure and other inflammatory diseases derives from the 20th century trend in many countries to cook with vegetable oils. The basis of this theory is that grass fed animals are better for you. Grain fed meat is likely better than being a strict vegan.

This is new and time will tell exactly how correct that the omega-3 people are in their thinking.

[Gunfixr]

My father never smoked, never drank any alcohol. No drugs. Didn't even drink coffee, the occasional soda or tea. 98% of the time, he drank water. Mom was a good cook, we ate real meals most of the time.
Earlier this year, he died of non Hodgkins lymphoma. It devoured him. He was 77.
He actually started his dance with cancer in '97, with prostate cancer.
In his family, he is the first I know of to get out of his 60s alive, they all die of heart attacks, or mostly cancer, between their mid 50s and mid 60s.
I am almost 50 now. I eat what I want. I'm dead anyway, so might as well go with a full belly and a smile.

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[Gabriel Suarez]

Soy makes your balls shrivel up. Wait...that explains liberals.

[firebird6]

Maybe I misunderstood the article but let me express it this way. According to WHO mever. 5 people out of 100 get colon cancer in their lifetime, and in the test group 6 people out of 100 bacon eaters got colon cancer in their life time.

I have another expression for that: Statistically insignificant.

[Mr. Anthony]

I thought Mark Sisson's breakdown of the story was good:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/what-does-the-who-report-mean-for-your-meat-eating-habit/#axzz3pvnoDddk