Hounds of war: Let`s see `em!

[Fjordforder]

Hey tribe. I was just fixing some lunch when I saw my dog and decided to see who else around here fights on seven legs?
This is mine, his name is Griswold. It`s an old photo, he`s missing his front right leg since he ran in front of a Truck a while ago. It hasn`t slowed him down and I like to think of that leg as dead weight.
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[tweek]

We foster for two rescues so....

I'll start with my 3 Germans and Boxer:
Kaiser
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5325/9667910860_1db3dab2ff.jpg
He's mine and he's a big reason for the mess I'm in these days. I work with him quite a bit and plan to start working on SAR with him to see if we can join one of the teams in the area to help out.

Rosie
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7397/11786572795_b0646e261b.jpg
She's also mine and she's a foster fail. She was quite a mess when we took her in but she has turned in to an absolute treasure. Unfortunately she doesn't have the greatest hips in the world so she's a bit limited in what she can do (no SAR for her).

Lola
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7584/16699188480_ab19c8f44a.jpg
She belong to my wife and is a great dog. She has a very strong prey drive so if I have time I'll train her for SAR as well. Only problem will be keeping her from nibbling on lost children.

Sparkles
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7627/16700461919_3fe755f9d8.jpg
She's my eldest daughter's and is about 10 years old. She is a wonderful dog and has made me a huge fan of boxers. If a German Shepherd is too much try a boxer you won't regret it.

Hawk
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7345/11786570775_01827f44e2.jpg
Hawk was my youngest daughter's dog. He passed away in June and is sorely missed around here. He was the epitome of goofy ass boxer. He is another example of a great reason to get a boxer of GSDs aren't your thing.

And the most recent fosters (there have been a lot so I'll just do the past few months):
Cole
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7650/16698976018_a6e84dd8ba.jpg
He's a 4 year old long hair GSD. Some stupid backyard breeder was breeding him but his father kept attacking him. He should never have been breed because he has hips for shit. On the other hand he is the sweetest dog you'll ever encounter. He would have been euthanized if I had not stepped in and rescued him. He had to have some major surgery to correct a digestive issue. He pretty much healed up and has a potential adopter ready to go, but he'll stay with us until May before I send him off. The lady who is adopting him is really lucky.

Tater Tot now Walter
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8697/16700463819_442655614a.jpg
Who the !@#%^@!#^ names a dog Tater Tot and then who the !@#%^!#^% renames it to Walter? Seriously, this dog was messed up enough before people started giving it names. Give a dog a good name like Max or Phobos or something like that. Anyway, cute little dog, was supposed to go to New York but had heart worm so he got adopted by a local family.

*UPDATE*
Thought I might add this: See that lovely comfy chair Tate is curled up in? It was in my office and it was really very comfy. I'd sit in it to read. Tate tore that shit up. So my office now has an empty corner thanks to that little turd burglar.

Shiloh
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8746/16885708321_72433b47e0.jpg
Sent to New York and adopted.

Wanda now Shoka
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7628/16885597631_e1a51a60a3.jpg
Again: who is coming up with these names? Wanda? Seriously? Shoka is good - it's Japanese and has some good connotations behind it. Again: Sent to New York and adopted. The family that adopted her stays in touch so I get to see pictures of her pretty often.

Maverick now Finely
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7529/15825168186_c3ece3ed01.jpg
Sent to New York and adopted. The adopter stays in touch so I see a lot of pictures of Finely. Funny as hell seeing the little guy in 4 feet of snow.

Louis
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7484/15901672076_4cd79156df.jpg
Sent to New York and adopted. I occasionally see pictures but they're not very active online.

I could go on but you get the idea

[EDELWEISS]

Ok you did it! Ive got Mom's 15+ year old Dachshund; but Ive been thinking of what to do when he goes. I think I want either a German Sheppard or a Rottweiler. My first thought was a puppy from a breeder, I never considered a rescue. Is there anything I should know? Should I be worried about bad habbits, problems with other dogs/kids, etc from rescue dogs? Where do I start?

[DutchV]

My nephew picked up a Rottie from a rescue in Virginia a few years ago. Luckily he was ignored, not really abused. He's great around the kids. You should see the one year old use him for a pillow. He's very tolerant (and a tad protective) of her.

[Fjordforder]

Ok you did it! Ive got Mom's 15+ year old Dachshund; but Ive been thinking of what to do when he goes. I think I want either a German Sheppard or a Rottweiler. My first thought was a puppy from a breeder, I never considered a rescue. Is there anything I should know? Should I be worried about bad habbits, problems with other dogs/kids, etc from rescue dogs? Where do I start?

I`ve had a few. They`re all a bit quirky (For example one would pittle in fear anytime a high pitched bell rang), but if you get a good one you`ll have a dog with a heart of gold. My mom has a Chiweenie (Chihuahua/Dachsund) and he was rescued from some crackheads in Texas. They were going to kill him, but my folks saved him. He`s a weird dog, almost always in at least a bad mood.

[blastjv]

Here is our girl Rosie back in her prime. We had to put her down last year (lung cancer). Hardest thing I've ever done. And here, too, is Aggie the pup who we just adopted a couple of weeks ago. She's a sweetie, too.

[Mike O'Leary]

Here's Timber. She was a wolf hybrid. Unfortunately she's no longer with us. She made it to 15 years. She was very dedicated and protective of her family but did not trust anyone else. Other animals, well she didn't like any. She's been gone since 2002 and we still miss her.

[JimD]

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Blaze at the Outer Banks, Summer 2014.

[Echo17]

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My Catahoula, pretty much the goofiest, most gentle best buddy a guy could want.

As far as a war hound, he does not have a mean bone in his body...unless you are one of the chipmunks that lives in the retaining wall, ha!

But seriously Catahoulas are fantastic dogs if you can manage to be more type A, intelligent and stubborn than they are.

They have crazy drive and smarts and are an incredibly powerful and athletic breed. They also handle hot climates as well, I know they are being explored as a service dog recently as German and belgian shepards can have issues with very hot climates.

[steve_k]

Jackson on the left and Bella on the right. Not mine, but a friends dogs... I'd take them, in a heart beat if needed. Both are rescues , very well behaved and love to be held.

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Bella close up.
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[ReynCon]

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This is my Ichi. Best little buddy a guy could ever ask for. He was brought home after my heart healed from having to put both of my girls (rotties) down the same day.

His only problem is his size doesn't equal his attitude, so we have to be careful in the sticks.

[Custom II]

Mika is a GSD/Shiba Inu mix I rescued. Very loyal, and uncannily smart. I swear she can read my mind...

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[Craig R]

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Here's Cooper keeping watch over the activities from his sofa lookout. He's about 3 in this picture. He's a Boxer, AM Staff mix, we got him from a high kill shelter and he was 2 days away from being put down, I couldn't have designed a better dog.

[tweek]

Ok you did it! Ive got Mom's 15+ year old Dachshund; but Ive been thinking of what to do when he goes. I think I want either a German Sheppard or a Rottweiler. My first thought was a puppy from a breeder, I never considered a rescue. Is there anything I should know? Should I be worried about bad habbits, problems with other dogs/kids, etc from rescue dogs? Where do I start?

Contact me.

All of my dogs are rescued and as mentioned I volunteer with rescues too.
Kaiser is actually a breeder dog from a good breeder. He was an owner surrender because the owner was too allergic. So I basically got a $3K dog for $300.
Yes some of the dogs can be a bit messed up and may not be a good match for you. In most cases working with an experienced trainer and some patience you can end up with a great dog. Rosie was a street dog before we got her. I've worked with her for the past year and she is now an extremely loyal and loving dog who has turned in to a complete diva around the house. Lola was fearful when I got her and she is still reactive to other dogs outside the house. However, now with the family she is very outgoing and very loyal.
Decide what breed you want and locate a local rescue for that breed. If they are any good they should be able to match you up with what you are after. Want to train for SAR, just a buddy to watch movies, or you want to do competitive agility: tell the rescue and they'll work with you to find a dog that fits what you want. If you can't find any local contact me (for German Shepherd or muts) and I'll help.

[Forklift]

Some good looking dogs here, I'd post a pic of my 14 pound killer but he's camera shy...

I grew up with St Bernards, and my next one will be a German Shepard, or St Bernard.

[red-it]

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Clancy waiting patiently for his evening walk.

[The rifleman next door]

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Sammy and Sophie resting up after a long day of dispensing death to all who threaten the sanctity of our home.

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Sammy in his typical neutral fighting stance.

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Sophie poised to attach a small child...

[PCGlock]

The new runnin buddy, Delilah. Rescue pit bull/ boxer mix.
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[coastalcop]

The first one always want to go with me, the second is too smart to go with me. Both are rescue dogs found about three years apart, both were great additions to the home. I did explain the dangers of wearing a BARKA to the first in Texas.

[dondy66]

42451Meet "Sonny" , as in Corleone . He's my son's dog ;
An Australian Dingo .

[Greg Nichols]

I want a miniature weiner dog short hair. I will name him Mr. Bigsbie, I will buy a multitude of hoodies and carry him around in the kangaroo pocket.

[Sammy]

My GWP. http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t50/sammyiamtoday/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-11-30%2016.06.15_zpsgyolf1s0.jpg

[ss58]

My boy Rock. 3rd English Lab first yellow. Great buddy, just riding around with me.

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[k9jethro]

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My boy Jethro during training with IronDog k9. He's becoming one hard GSD

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[k9jethro]

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A couple more. He was on that bite being carried about 25 yards and stayed on it.


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[Hallux]

Laila, originally my gf's dog, now "ours". 8 year old Boxer/Greyhound mix. Normally very sedate, even submissive, but has a very strong prey drive and goes from 0 to Kill Mode instantly after any critters in the yard. A couple woodchucks have been a moment too slow. I admire her ability to switch "on" in the blink of an eye, seems a good quality for more than just dogs to have.

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[k9jethro]

Good looking dog!

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[Harleystreetbob]

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[tweek]

I just pulled this magnificent beast from our local shelter:
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He stayed overnight (did great with my pack, I had 5 GSDs in the house all at once!) and is now on his way to our rescue's ranch where he'll get vetted up and ready for adoption. If anybody is interested let me know.

[Custom II]

I just pulled this magnificent beast from our local shelter:
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He stayed overnight (did great with my pack, I had 5 GSDs in the house all at once!) and is now on his way to our rescue's ranch where he'll get vetted up and ready for adoption. If anybody is interested let me know.

Is this something you'll be doing long term? I don't have the space for a GSD right now, but I'm hoping to in the next few years.


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[tweek]

I except we'll continue volunteering with rescues for the foreseeable future.

[Custom II]

I except we'll continue volunteering with rescues for the foreseeable future.

Fantastic.


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[Bob F.]

He's a handsome brute, Tweek.

Sorry, but I've got all I can handle with a "Labradoodle" and a GSD (117lbs and not bulked-up yet).

[SinistralRifleman]

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Trigger (left) is a Boxxer-Mastiff mix. He's coming up on 2 years old. He came down with an auto immune disorder (IMHA) after vaccinations when he was 1 year old. He is stable now and we are working on weening him off his steroids, then off the immune suppressant. He was our first dog together and he is very intelligent and loyal.

Chamber (middle) is a Boxxer Sharpei mix. She was left abandoned in an apartment as a baby and someone tried to clip one of her ears with scissors. We fostered her and ended up keeping her once we saw how well she got along with Trigger. Trigger stopped being so puppy crazy with another dog to play with. She's very sweet but still skittish with some people.

Striker (right) is a lab-pit mix. He's 9 months old. Full of insane spastic energy. His mother was found pregnant wandering in an industrial complex and she had like 14 puppies. We fostered him and his brother (background) but no one wanted to adopt him. Pits are less desirable and black dogs are statistically adopted less. We decided to keep him. While he's full of energy he's the most harmless dog ever he simply doesn't react to anything the kid or the other dogs do to him.

If you can't tell were softies for dogs and we'd have more if we had the time and the space.

[IANative]

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Damn... can you say, "bed full of dog hair?!"

[SinistralRifleman]

Lol Striker is the only one that sleeps on the bed and he doesn't shed.

[Echo17]

Saw this somewhere else, if one of the tribe happens to own a large bodied, mastiff type dog, a little "creative enhancement" would probably cause the local thug to piss himself at first glance. I almost sprayed my coffee on my computer when I saw it first......

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[ericb]

Ready for war

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[Bob F.]

Echo 17: that's f'ing hysterical!!

I'll try to get some pics of Ruger, 117# GSD. Upper body is mostly black so pics are difficult. Labradoodle protects mom. Laid back, non-aggressive, but nonchalantly positions between Mom & stranger.

[Bowana]

Zoey Jane

[Gun Mutt]

Gone just a couple of months now, this is Samson, the Captain of the Guard...buck stud Akita/Convict mix that loved me above and mostly to the exclusion of all others. Like the candle that burns twice as bright, Samson was gone from this world all too soon.

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Our new boy, Jessie 'Boondock' Mutt (AKC Husky) Here 8wk old Jessie is waking up from another 45min coma...30sec later, he'll be doing his Tasmanian Devil impersonation.

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[Carson017]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/19/1b23a72235d2e951ae3f890f9e191c07.jpg
Macy Ella, Red Merle Aussie


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[Glock45]

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Ava, 6 month old Great Dane.

[docmagnum357]

Ole Huckleberry often falls asleep reading the good boo

[rlh2]

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[crystal river charlie]

Sniffer the dachshund and THE B--CH Kitty
Dog bites your ankles while the cat claws
her way to your face.
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[Fjordforder]

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Baghdad Betty, going UC at the market. Pound puppy of German wire hair.

Next pup will be a Belgian Malmoise. Looking for a rescue on those.

I read about a Maligator that ate about a dozen rounds of .308. Seems just the dog for WarriorTalk, hahaha.

[warriorscience4u]

I read about a Maligator that ate about a dozen rounds of .308. Seems just the dog for WarriorTalk, hahaha.

Haha, yup, Give blood; tease a malinoise....

[kabar]

Nothing better than a boy and his first pup!

[Southwind]

Pic of my husband's dog Kido. He is in doggie heaven now, but he was trained for nitrate interdiction and was 100 pounds. For that matter, my dh is probably in doggie heaven too, cause it wouldn't be heaven for him without dogs.

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[Southwind]

And this is a bad dog selfie. She will go to war against any critter that attacks my chickens.

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[Sharkbite]

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"Death on Four Paws" Java -- Don't be afraid, she can't hurt you -it's only a picture!! Humaine Society rescue. Dachshund/Chihuahua mix as best we can tell. During the "interview" with her and the society director, Java booth peed and pooped on the cat scratching post in the boss lady's office. She aced the interview; I knew then that she was the one for us!

[SEANSTRAIT]

43901 Reagan, our 7 month old rescue pup. He is a Dutch Shepherd and terrified of cats...we are working on that.

[Fjordforder]

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"Death on Four Paws" Java -- Don't be afraid, she can't hurt you -it's only a picture!! Humaine Society rescue. Dachshund/Chihuahua mix as best we can tell. During the "interview" with her and the society director, Java booth peed and pooped on the cat scratching post in the boss lady's office. She aced the interview; I knew then that she was the one for us!

I have a half Chihuahua/Half Miniature Dachsund. Terrible personality, to be honest. He`s the perfect dog for an old lady; only tolerates one person in the room at a time, and is certainly a one dog house kind of dog, erm, rat.

[warriorscience4u]

43901 Reagan, our 7 month old rescue pup. He is a Dutch Shepherd and terrified of cats...we are working on that.


Wow, beautiful colors...

[SEANSTRAIT]

Wow, beautiful colors...


Thank you. He is a beautiful dog and we were lucky to get him.

[ericb]

My other one.

[c.helm]

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx77/Nframe/image.jpg1_zpstnzq5ic5.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/Nframe/media/image.jpg1_zpstnzq5ic5.jpg.html)

My huge puppy Max 65 lbs and 8 months old. I rescued him off the side of the road back in December on a 25 degree morning. He had been tossed in a shop-vac box with his litter mates. I could only rescue one the others I placed at a shelter.
He will take on anything that wants to play but what ever his breeding is if it challenges him he doesn't back down.

[Fjordforder]

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx77/Nframe/image.jpg1_zpstnzq5ic5.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/Nframe/media/image.jpg1_zpstnzq5ic5.jpg.html)

My huge puppy Max 65 lbs and 8 months old. I rescued him off the side of the road back in December on a 25 degree morning. He had been tossed in a shop-vac box with his litter mates. I could only rescue one the others I placed at a shelter.
He will take on anything that wants to play but what ever his breeding is if it challenges him he doesn't back down.

I try to treat everyone with respect but I simply have zero compassion or empathy for people who abandon perfectly good animals. Glad to hear you did what you could and got what seems like a great dog out of it. Treat that pup with care, I know I would.

[IANative]

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx77/Nframe/image.jpg1_zpstnzq5ic5.jpg (http://s743.photobucket.com/user/Nframe/media/image.jpg1_zpstnzq5ic5.jpg.html)

My huge puppy Max 65 lbs and 8 months old. I rescued him off the side of the road back in December on a 25 degree morning. He had been tossed in a shop-vac box with his litter mates. I could only rescue one the others I placed at a shelter.
He will take on anything that wants to play but what ever his breeding is if it challenges him he doesn't back down.

What about the rest of your SC sled-dog team you got hangin' around down there?

[c.helm]

It's tricky to get a pic of all 7 dogs. They move around too much. All are rescues and have their own rescue story, there is the three legged one, she was shot by some bastard and left. I brought her to the vet and saved her. Two came from rescue shelters. Our husky mix was found running down the middle of the freeway out in the middle of nowhere he jumped in the truck and stayed. Our Beagle mix ran away from his owner because she was a drug addict who didn't know how to keep a dog...
It never ends. All the pup;s have special places in our house and hearts.

[CaptBeach]

Three DACHSHUNDS OF DEATH and last week picked up a MALIGATOR...my son cannot take his Belgian to SC with him...she is a hand full...will post pics when i get a chance...

Sasha the MALI-GATOR...she is 6 now...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvIX6uW87Og

[Boetman]

My two machine guns. They get along very well, and ole' Varkie (piggy in Brits) quickly sorted out a puffadder the otherday in the garden, a place the other little machine gun frequently play. Neddles to say, he is getting all the scraps, the other dogs are useless.44069

[Fjordforder]

Please excuse my absence, was out...doing...stuff...
Beautiful animals, tribe. I`d be proud to have any one of them at the foot of my bed.

[1_ranger]

"Kaiser": Muzzle Velocity 10fps
Bullet Wgt 110lbs
Elev 6'
Made in Germany
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[barnetmill]

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[barnetmill]

Jagdterrier running a boar.
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[barnetmill]

Old painting of war dogs attacking.
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[barnetmill]

Very old fashion southern farm mastiff type with a pear that she found and a chew toy that she appropriated.
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My other that has thrown as an old time white english bulldog in front of an elderberry bush.
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[barnetmill]

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[BearMBD]

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My best friend, Heidi. She is 7years old and spoiled.



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[barnetmill]

Cane Corso, Pescara, Italy
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[Brikhaus]

Here are my two boys
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[barnetmill]

These are afghans that love to fight mastiff type dogs. I do not agree with
dog fighting, but still the topic is interesting. In the US now days while illegal it is
the smaller pitbull which is related to these mastiffs that are are illegally fought.
This is a thread for warrior dogs and these are warrior dogs even if I do not approve
of what is being done and also of the people that are doing it. This 'sport' predates
by many years the change from being pagans to being muslims for these people. These dogs were
originally guardians of the homestead and of the live stock from two and 4-legged
predators. Now some of these are dedicated to dog fighting.

Adnan Hamdani (https://www.facebook.com/adnan.hamdani.3?fref=ufi) this is afghanistan's pic .. They r fond of fighting dogs same as we r
fond of their koochi dogs , cz real brave fighting boohlis u just can get 4m our province
punjab in pakistan. The result of boohli breed here is always excellent .. I know some
afghan frnds who ask us to provide them boohlis in exchange with their koochis. And
They cross boohlis with koochis and use them to fight
These dogs were introduced in large numbers by pagans fleeing the huns
in the 5th century into the Roman empire bt the Alani tribes. The Spanish call
these dogs still to this day Alanos and the French Alaunts. All mastiffs and true bulldogs of the USA
are descended from these alani barbarian dogs of the 5th century AD.
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[barnetmill]

Plott Hound

North Carolina designated the plott hound as the official state dog in 1989.
Developed in the mountains of North Carolina by German immigrant
Jonathan Plott around 1750
http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/symbol-official-item/north-carolina/state-dog-cat/plott-hound
http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/sites/statesymbolsusa.org/files/styles/large/public/primary-images/plotthoundface.jpg?itok=gZwUEog4
1921 Vaughn Plott with bear hounds and Airedale posted on White English face book by a Plott
descendant Adrianne (https://www.facebook.com/adrianne.h.jameson)
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[barnetmill]

Ready to fight wolves, bears, and panthers.
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Take your choice.
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[BearMBD]

Ready to fight wolves, bears, and panthers.
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Take your choice.
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Anatolian Shepard?


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[barnetmill]

Anatolian Shepard?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The poster of these pictrues is from Albania. The Turks at one time ruled the Balkans and also the Albanians may have come from asia also in the distant past. The post is one of the asian dogs and many of these breeds whether Kangral or Anatolian Shepherd or others (Ovcharka. Alabai, etc ) are all the same general type of dog and serve the same function. They are all big long haired guardian dogs. The poster did not list a breed name that I caught. It is one of many similar pictures posted on the Alaunt and Alano Infomration Page a closed group https://www.facebook.com/groups/637447839620307/
These large dogs are being bred to larger and likely are being mixed to get larger sizes. They arr\e being sold to urban folk mostly these days. .

[barnetmill]

Dumb burglar and A little Terror.

https://fbcdn-video-b-a.akamaihd.net/hvideo-ak-xtp1/v/t42.1790-2/10654342_769769336430437_1169538008_n.mp4?efg=eyJy bHIiOjMwMCwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=300&vabr=157&oh=6501a78ecb867d5af32805d75392430c&oe=55D8A6EA&__gda__=1440266137_16c89b9a9b5e3ce1dc2b8fe1e0fad66 a

[BearMBD]

Thanks for the info. Brad Thor wrote about the Caucasian ovcharka in his Scot Harvath books. I would love to have one or five. Great looking bears, I mean dogs.


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[coastalcop]

One of our trained hounds, found me during an " officer down " practice search. You can hold onto the t handle of his reward and he will drag you around the station on your chair. Thinks it's a great game. Has also gone through two bite sleeves, most bite suits he will still bruise and draw blood when he hits. Great personality too. Like a teenager that WANTS to work. Trained but STILL growing !!!

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[barnetmill]

Loves to fly. Crane corso
Brandy says: Protector of our kids chickens and guineas
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[barnetmill]

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[barnetmill]

Here is picture of a dog I hope to breed to my white puppy. Teeth are well worn in this 10 yr old southern farm dog. He is the last 'pure' individual of this particular white english strain. We are pitching in to set up a sperm bank for this fellow and requests for sperm will likely come from all over, especially from some spanish alano breeders. Many modern bulldogs have tiny teeth and not able to properly maul an enemy.
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[Fjordforder]

Here is picture of a dog I hope to breed to my white puppy. Teeth are well worn in this 10 yr old southern farm dog. He is the last 'pure' individual of this particular white english strain. We are pitching in to set up a sperm bank for this fellow and requests for sperm will likely come from all over, especially from some spanish alano breeders. Many modern bulldogs have tiny teeth and not able to properly maul an enemy.
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11896140_10204806421668952_880784900703843674_n.jp g?oh=aeff0fd8a15cdb377b18f7eabf3469f0&oe=56845323
Nice dog! My grandfather (Pararescue) once parachuted with his bulldog. No idea if the old loaf had teeth like that though.

[barnetmill]

Nice dog! My grandfather (Pararescue) once parachuted with his bulldog. No idea if the old loaf had teeth like that though. I made a mistake on the dog's picture. Below Carr White English champ's teeth which are not so undershot as for the mislabeled picture above. Champ's incisor teeth tend to be larger than in some other dogs. He had one canine knocked from things over the years. He is 10 yrs old and guards a farm in Georgia. A true warrior dog.

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[Fjordforder]

I made a mistake on the dog's picture. Below Carr White English champ's teeth which are not so undershot as for the mislabeled picture above. Champ's incisor teeth tend to be larger than in some other dogs. He had one canine knocked from things over the years. He is 10 yrs old and guards a farm in Georgia. A true warrior dog.

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Sounds like it.

[barnetmill]

These are old pictures of what working boerboels looked looked like in the past.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/bttbab/johannesburg_detail_437x455-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/bttbab/jakkalskop_1926-1.jpg


Modern ones look like below; imagine the fat malformed dogs below keeping with their mounted master. They likely could not even follow an ox cart for long without keeling over. People insist on ruining breeds http://static1.squarespace.com/static/50ae71d2e4b09793f627b0b9/t/529e2c68e4b0c6251ad29e73/1386097771577/boerboels.jpeg

[barnetmill]

Old Sculpture.
http://s1.bild.me/bilder/260513/70095679482276butchers_mastiff_sunnyAK-1.jpg

[barnetmill]

Litter of future warrior dogs posted by Nenad Sibinovic (https://www.facebook.com/nenad.sibinovic?fref=photo) from Ćuprija is a town and administrative district in Serbia (https://www.facebook.com/pages/w/105510156149588)


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[Fjordforder]

Litter of future warrior dogs posted by Nenad Sibinovic (https://www.facebook.com/nenad.sibinovic?fref=photo) from Ćuprija is a town and administrative district in Serbia (https://www.facebook.com/pages/w/105510156149588)


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I wonder if WT could work out a group buy...
:biggrin:

[barnetmill]

I wonder if WT could work out a group buy...
:biggrin: For something like that you negotiate before the breeding. Before any deal is made you want to know a lot about the dam and sire. What have they killed in combat. Can they fight and is their fighting done to protect the homestead? How are they with children and other pets or livestock of the household. The pitbull people have something they call being game, but for them it is not so much about winning and more about not giving up regardless of how over matched they are in a pit fight. The sire of the white pup in my avatar made two packs of wild dogs go away and break ins stopped and he killed a bobcat. He also weighed 120 lbs which is huge for a white englsih dog in Georgia, USA. Likely a lot of mastiff genes coming from the times that the Spanish ruled Georgia prior to Oglethorpe driving them back to what is now Florida in the latter 17th century.
How they are with other members of the household is very important. Basic rule is if a dog that growls at a child it is put down immediately. I go for the most mild manner type of protective dogs.

[Fjordforder]

For something like that you negotiate before the breeding. Before any deal is made you want to know a lot about the dam and sire. What have they killed in combat. Can they fight and is their fighting done to protect the homestead? How are they with children and other pets or livestock of the household. The pitbull people have something they call being game, but for them it is not so much about winning and more about not giving up regardless of how over matched they are in a pit fight. The sire of the white pup in my avatar made to packs of wild dogs go away and breakins stopped and he killed a bobcat. He also weighed 120 lbs which is huge for a white dog in Georgia, USA. Likely a lot of mastiff genes coming from the times that the Spanish ruled Georgia prior to Oglethorpe driving them back to what is now Florida in the latter 17th century.
How they are with other members of the household is very important. Basic rule is if a dog that growls at a child it is put down immediately. I go for the most mild manner type of protective dogs.

I f you like mild-mannered you`d love mine, I think I posted a few photos of him in the OP. Sweetest dog you`ve ever met. He`s a big baby but grows up damn fast if something`s wrong.

[barnetmill]

I f you like mild-mannered you`d love mine, I think I posted a few photos of him in the OP. Sweetest dog you`ve ever met. He`s a big baby but grows up damn fast if something`s wrong.


I looked up the op and your dog looks good. There is a fellow that breeds cane corso on a facebook page and forum that I hang out at. He wrote that one of his pups seem very aloof and had growled at him.
I am not sure what it is ... this is a very cold and distant pup. Acts much more like a LGD and looks it too. She hates to come inside. She will growl at you for cuddling her. She was too intriguing for me to place. I want to see how she turns out. Is she a throwback or a throwaway?

14 Week Cane Corso Female
She will growl at me. That is dealt with by ignoring it. I don't want to crush that spirit. As she gets older it will get directed towards strangers and away from me. She may always voice her displeasure with other people. Even my wife if they do not build a bond. A dog like that really teaches you what dogs like and what dogs are only putting up with. Very dominant dogs like that won't tolerate it from people or animals that have not proven to them that they deserve a dominant position over them. She will be older before I feel she can handle the pressure of learning that lesson from me. If she is both dominant and hard, anyone else who wants to be dominant over her will have to show her the same. Some one else mentioned that they had once a similar pup and I asked if he did shoot it. I did not get an answer.

Last one to comment is a full time breeder of mastiff type dogs and his answer was:
Post by raylane on Sep 9, 2015 at 12:44pm

I have to admit, I would not tolerate any dog that I owned that growled at me, nor would I place it in any other home.
We talking about dogs that are capable of killing a human.
Picture below of 14 week old pup in question
Canecorso pup
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n6/tacsatarmy/11845928_10153611133931162_341308082_n_zpsnd21ag9v .jpg

[Fjordforder]

I looked up the op and your dog looks good.

Thanks, he`s sitting on the porch now, soaking up what`s left of summer.

[georgeib]

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[barnetmill]

Below is picture of two types of bulldogs. The White English dogs are milder and more laid back than the young brindle bull pup that greets with its tail up and ready for action. Finding brindle bull dogs that are not mixed with pitbull is difficult and I have been told the most dangerous of them are likely extinct which were the darker brindles . The brindle bulldogs are believe to be very close to the war dogs that came with the early colonists to Georgia. They will not growl at family members, but will attack intruders a lot quicker the white bulldogs will.
http://webps.proboards.com/attachment/download/82


Jack, the Brindle Bulldog

Jack is one of the first characters we meet in Laura's "Little House" books, and rightly so, for he was Laura's first friend. Although he is a dog, he is one of the most beloved characters in Laura's books. We first encounter Jack on page three of Little House in the Big Woods, lying guard by the door to protect the family from wolves. In the stories, Jack followed the family from the Big Woods into Indian Territory. He nearly drowned in a swollen creek, causing the family several days of sadness before he found his way back to them.

Jack took his role as protector very seriously, which sometimes was more of a hindrance than a help, particularly in Indian Territory. Pa had to keep Jack tied up to prevent him from biting the Indians who sometimes visited the Ingalls home and causing trouble for the settlers. He proved his worth, however, when he saved the family's lives.
When the family contracted fever 'n' ague (malaria) on the Kansas prairie, they were all too sick to go for help. It is likely they would have died before anyone realized their predicament. However, Jack saved their lives by running to meet Dr. Tann as he rode down the trail past the house, begging him to come in.
While the stories told about Jack in Little House on the Prairie are true, in real life, Jack's adventures with the Ingalls family ended as they returned to the Big Woods. Jack liked to spend his time with the ponies, Pet and Patty, and when Pa traded them for horses, Jack wanted to stay with them, so Pa let him go.

[barnetmill]

This was posted by a French fellow that runs American Bulldogs in France.

Jean Hoch (https://www.facebook.com/jean.hoch)
"Lafayette told him that in France they had a breed of shepherd-dogs, very large, of great sagacity, which were used in driving and protecting their flocks. “Old a country as France is, and strange as you may think it,” said Lafayette, “our mountains are infested with wolves which commit depredations upon our sheep. I will send you a pair for breeding.” In due time they came, and were quite prolific. They were a noble species, white with generally golden-hued spots; resembled the English mastiff, and were found extremely useful, but in time run out by mongrel associates. One of them one day followed my brother Alexander to market when a large, ferocious bull-dog, encouraged by his master, attacked him. The butchers formed a ring around them expecting the bull-dog to conquer. He had seized the shepherd-dog by the throat. The skin there was tough, and so loose that the other was enabled to twist his head around and grasp the bull’s head, and soon the bones were heard to crack. The master of the bull then interfered. “No,” said the others, “we formed a ring to see fair play; you set him on and now we will see it out.” And they did. The shepherd-dog had got his spunk up, and they heard the crunching of the bones, and quickly the bull-dog yielded up the ghost." Historical Collections of Ohio By Henry Howe Vol. I 1888 Jefferson County

[barnetmill]

Photo below of two very heroic dogs that rescue a little Yorkie from a pack of coyotes.
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The little Yorkie in this pic was attacked and almost devoured by coyotes. The 2 Ridgeback crosses in this pic were turned loose and went to the rescue. They both fought off the coyotes and Ajax, the male chased them off, while Tinkerbell, the female stood guard over Sam, the yorkie, until Lisa, the owner found him. Tinker had wounds to her hind quarters. Ajax was wound free. Sam the Yorkie, was bleeding profusely with large lacerations and broken ribs. Sam doesn't venture into the woods anymore. He sticks close to Momma Lisa...lol. $3000 later and lots of dedicated medical care, Sam was lucky to recover. Ajax is 106 lbs. Tinkerbell is 101 lbs, and Sam is under 5lbs. posted by Gary at the facebook page of Old White English Preservation Society. a closed group

[barnetmill]

Warrior Princesses: Memphis of about 2.5 years is in heat about a week and the one with the protective collar is Ginger and she is almost 3 yrs. The collar is not a halo, but meant to keep Ginger from licking a wound on her lower right wrist just above the paw. Wound was from a fight over which one got to sit next to me at the computer.




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[barnetmill]

A warrior taking his ease. 'What me worry. I have all the time in the world.'
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[TheGrayMan214]

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My first K9
German Shepherd
K9 Friederich ("Fred")
15 NOVEMBER 05 - 8 JULY 15 (Rest In Peace, Buddy)
Handler Protection, Fugitive Apprehension, Narcotics Detection

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Also is my new girl...
Mayla (not yet certified)
Belgian Malinois off Dutch-imported (Voorthuizen via Shallow Creek) Parents

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[barnetmill]

https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/10341690_10154140734460094_6642654728835583635_n.j pg?oh=5ba311ca57e8c622afd9f54324557ccf&oe=56BCF66B&__gda__=1456671613_92f96ec0c6fd809381e75a6cdba0f32 a
(https://www.facebook.com/cisncountry/photos/a.10150217200965094.450753.376802075093/10154140734460094/?type=3)

[Fjordforder]

https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/10341690_10154140734460094_6642654728835583635_n.j pg?oh=5ba311ca57e8c622afd9f54324557ccf&oe=56BCF66B&__gda__=1456671613_92f96ec0c6fd809381e75a6cdba0f32 a
(https://www.facebook.com/cisncountry/photos/a.10150217200965094.450753.376802075093/10154140734460094/?type=3)
Smart idea, I wonder why they aren't more popular?

[barnetmill]

I do not know if dogs actually wore armor to any degree and especially in the new world, but people did use dogs to attack humans in raids and for hunting in the new world.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11705126_927765730646671_6253773248230983861_n.jpg ?oh=da2e782344488e8cb69b855c89602ac1&oe=56BFF93A

(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=927765730646671&set=pcb.646349238801592&type=3&relevant_count=3)https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/p173x172/11049642_927765710646673_3546266174257994327_n.jpg ?oh=8f7b2e8cff526a084119ff822f0d2f01&oe=56D1EB96&__gda__=1455534891_3b5338aeec5e4f14886d6a3a3c727a0 6
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=927765710646673&set=pcb.646349238801592&type=3&relevant_count=2)https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-0/p235x165/12191471_927765753980002_8473269435251190264_n.jpg ?oh=1cfa02b298f7290e70f0ef24063c6046&oe=56B9E6F7



"The dogs the Conquistadors brought with them were Mastiff breeds who were hardly the lap variety or destined for the plate. These attack dogs, often wearing their own armor, were the common European shock and awe tactic of the period. The first documented New World use of these canine swat teams occurred in 1495 when Bartholomew Columbus, Chris’s brother, used 20 mastiffs in a battle waged at Santa Maris el Antigua, Darien with his brother employing the same approach a year later. These dogs were trained to pursue, disembowel and dismember humans and to this purpose, enjoyed a human diet in the Americas. The Spanish reveled in holding human hunts called “la Monteria infernal “ where much sport was made of chasing and killing the local men, women and children. The noted Spanish apologist Bartolme de La Casas has left us numerous accounts of the exploits of these hounds from hell"....
El Valle Information and History






(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=927765753980002&set=pcb.646349238801592&type=3&relevant_count=1)

[barnetmill]

more war dogs: El perro del Conquistador
The dogs look like Spanish Mastiffs.


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[Soren]

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My old boerboel "Rosebud".

[tweek]

Our current foster Riley:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5769/22705715586_955b4f3e93_z_d.jpg
6 Month old male AKC registered owner surrender.
Owner is a truck driver and unable to continue caring for him.
He gets along great with my pack. High energy, great toy drive, very smart, easily trainable.
We're setting up his vet appointment (he's up to date on shots already) for microchipping and snipping. After that he'll be available for adoption. Let me know if anybody is interested in adopting him and I can help with the process. I doubt he makes it past our next adoption event.

[Glock45]

more war dogs: El perro del Conquistador
The dogs look like Spanish Mastiffs.


https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12189763_10207039762385264_1543627452400995571_n.j pg?oh=8e77377e7e510c1d895078ace1d73848&oe=56BD9EA3

Now I want spiked armor for my Danes.

Side note, I saw a little bit of the ancient hate a couple days ago. I came home with sunglasses on and our big one didn't recognize me right off. She really wanted to taste my spine, but the floor was too slippery for her. Then she figured out it was me and was so sorry she hugged me and peed.

[Fjordforder]

Now I want spiked armor for my Danes.

Side note, I saw a little bit of the ancient hate a couple days ago. I came home with sunglasses on and our big one didn't recognize me right off. She really wanted to taste my spine, but the floor was too slippery for her. Then she figured out it was me and was so sorry she hugged me and peed.

Fun.

[Gun Mutt]

Rosebud is a doll!

[barnetmill]

Now I want spiked armor for my Danes.

Side note, I saw a little bit of the ancient hate a couple days ago. I came home with sunglasses on and our big one didn't recognize me right off. She really wanted to taste my spine, but the floor was too slippery for her. Then she figured out it was me and was so sorry she hugged me and peed.

A friend of mine had a big cur dog that was a cross of brindle bulldog, some Catahoula, and Plott. Commonly crossing bulldog with other dogs give sort of super dog hybrid. This one had a huge head, powerful body, and his name was Dufus. He was extremely territorial and aggressive. Friend was out drinking one night and clothing reeking of cigarette smoke. Dog sleeping at the door of the shop. He unlocked the door and Dufus grabbed his leg, but quickly let go once he figured out whose leg it was.

Mine are extremely submissive to me and which is good because they will not take any thing from anywhere else. When younger I would tell one of them to drop something, 'leave it' and she would; immediately she would go find her blanket, lie down close her eyes, and immediately snore. It was her way of submitting when she really did not want to. She thinks it did not happen since she is sleeping and it really did not happen.

[Glock45]

A friend of mine had a big cur dog that was a cross of brindle bulldog, some Catahoula, and Plott. Commonly crossing bulldog with other dogs give sort of super dog hybrid. This one had a huge head, powerful body, and his name was Dufus. He was extremely territorial and aggressive. Friend was out drinking one night and clothing reeking of cigarette smoke. Dog sleeping at the door of the shop. He unlocked the door and Dufus grabbed his leg, but quickly let go once he figured out whose leg it was.

Mine are extremely submissive to me and which is good because they will not take any thing from anywhere else. When younger I would tell one of them to drop something, 'leave it' and she would; immediately she would go find her blanket, lie down close her eyes, and immediately snore. It was her way of submitting when she really did not want to. She thinks it did not happen since she is sleeping and it really did not happen.

Wow! I'm glad Ava didn't get a piece of me. She couldn't get traction on the hardwood so she circled me. Made about a half circle until the light bulb came on.

That's neat. I've never heard of a dog tricking itself with sleep before. Did she teach it to herself or did you start her that way by making her go to her bed?

Ava has always been almost too submissive. We got her as a pup, but she was the last one and kind of neglected. My wife got her while I was deployed and when I came home she was terrified of me. I think it was mostly my voice because it was so much deeper than my wife's. She's gotten much better, but she has nervous tendencies. She mostly shows she's submissive with peeing, tail tucked, ears down, no eye contact, and face licking. It's a pretty pathetic sight when she knows she screwed up.

[barnetmill]

Wow! I'm glad Ava didn't get a piece of me. She couldn't get traction on the hardwood so she circled me. Made about a half circle until the light bulb came on.

That's neat. I've never heard of a dog tricking itself with sleep before. Did she teach it to herself or did you start her that way by making her go to her bed?

Ava has always been almost too submissive. We got her as a pup, but she was the last one and kind of neglected. My wife got her while I was deployed and when I came home she was terrified of me. I think it was mostly my voice because it was so much deeper than my wife's. She's gotten much better, but she has nervous tendencies. She mostly shows she's submissive with peeing, tail tucked, ears down, no eye contact, and face licking. It's a pretty pathetic sight when she knows she screwed up. Her cousin will do it to certain extent under other circumstances. The ancestors to my dogs had submissiveness to the master and his family bred into them millennia ago. If a dog is not submissive to the master, it should be put down. There should be difference between the family guardian versus mankiller attack dogs & war dogs.
Below sketch of original bloodhounds used to capture slaves or escaping prisoners. The bloodhounds were originally crossbreed mastiffs dogs and not the lymer type bloodhounds of today that only track. The dog referred as Spot. (big at 150-160 lbs IIRC) was used at the Andersonville prison for Union Soldiers.
#11 Captain Wirz and his pets. The Bloodhound Spot, in the foreground (http://www.nps.gov/common/uploads/photogallery/akr/park/ande/8DC3F664-1DD8-B71C-07361FEE864A8CAA/8DC3F664-1DD8-B71C-07361FEE864A8CAA-large.jpg) Captain Wirz and his pets. The Bloodhound Spot, in the foreground from:
Thomas O'Dea's drawing of the Andersonville Prison

http://www.nps.gov/common/uploads/photogallery/akr/park/ande/8DC3F664-1DD8-B71C-07361FEE864A8CAA/8DC3F664-1DD8-B71C-07361FEE864A8CAA-large.jpg

[barnetmill]

A warrior dog not, lol.

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[jaowens]

4557545576 Mine is just a yipper, unless you are a squirrel or an unknown cat.

[barnetmill]

Ginger as a pup at 7 months 'helping me' stack cut brush.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12182866_501756853319135_261349534117961344_o.jpg

[Fjordforder]

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When this little freak was a puppy he'd dig holes. We taught him it was okay to as long as it's a little trench in the garden while someone is there.

[barnetmill]

A dog of the conquistadors and in the southern US were typically called Cuban Bloodhounds. These are the bloodhounds of Uncle Tom's Cabin. This is from the 1880's and was labeled plantation dog. The conquistadors used them against native american, US soldiers under Gen. A. Jackson using also against the native americans, and slave holders used them to track and deal with runaways. They were mastiffs that were likely crossed with hunting dogs. Not believed to exist in 'pure' form anymore. Likely mixed in with Cur dogs and various Bulldog breeds.

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Edited to add:
Likelya Spanish war dog painting (Spaniards did not got anywhere w/o their dogs). Man at arms handling a war dog with mounted Knight (Caballero, knight) behind on horse. There is another latin word for just horsemen which is not a knight or gentleman. That would be like a mounted Mongol.
http://oweps.weebly.com/uploads/8/3/1/3/8313302/5248384.jpg

The Cuban Bloodhound inherited all the main characteristics of the the Spanish pursuit dogs. In the beginning the Cuban Bloodhound was used for combat against the Indians. 'This singular race was characterized as one of rare aggressiveness. It was a dog of great desire in its job, of much tenacity and of fearless courage. Men feared facing it as it was common that the dogs succeeded to kill without difficulty. It's bite was particularly strong. It was distinguished from the other dogs also for its resistance and its churlishness. (Rudeness of manners or temper; lack of kindness or courtesy). They were '24 inches high and 36 inches long (or thereabouts), with a head, breast, fore-legs and shoulders like a light-made mastiff, and stout somewhat enlongated, ears erect like a grey-hound (mostly cropped where they bend), and loins, croup, haunches, and tails like a greyhound, only thicker set. This combination, you may conceive, produces an animal of great nerve, strength, and agility, and such to all appearances, are these bloodhounds.' St. Augustine Herald 2-6-1840 This was about the dogs that Andrew Jackson was planning to use against the Seminoles.

[barnetmill]

Which is the true warrior dog?
Below what is supposed to be an Alapaha bulldog. The original cross was from a Catahoula that hopped a fence and got a Georgia White English bitch pregnant. which is not a bad cross. But through some interesting breeding ended up with the below. Imagine it trying hold a wild hog or fight a coyote.

http://s23483.storage.proboards.com/2783483/t/_NB3vVxtk2anOWEphw_1.jpg

Typical White English bulldog. Wins no dog show prizes. The breeders I got her from are adamant that they never be shown since dog show breeding ruins breeds. Dog show breeding breed non-functional and in some cases unhealthy dogs.
http://s23483.storage.proboards.com/2783483/t/iUV_0bgxUvfLxFoB1wV6.JPG

[Fjordforder]

Which is the true warrior dog?
Below what is supposed to be an Alapaha bulldog. The original cross was from a Catahoula that hopped a fence and got a Georgia White English bitch pregnant. which is not a bad cross. But through some interesting breeding ended up with the below. Imagine it trying hold a wild hog or fight a coyote.

http://s23483.storage.proboards.com/2783483/t/_NB3vVxtk2anOWEphw_1.jpg

Typical White English bulldog. Wins no dog show prizes. The breeders I got her from are adamant that they never be shown since dog show breeding ruins breeds. Dog show breeding breed non-functional and in some cases unhealthy dogs.
http://s23483.storage.proboards.com/2783483/t/iUV_0bgxUvfLxFoB1wV6.JPG

Very interesting stuff. My grandfather used to parachute jump with his English Bulldog, now he's stuck with one of the Hollywood Rats. Poor guy.

[BearMBD]

Our current foster Riley:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5769/22705715586_955b4f3e93_z_d.jpg
6 Month old male AKC registered owner surrender.
Owner is a truck driver and unable to continue caring for him.
He gets along great with my pack. High energy, great toy drive, very smart, easily trainable.
We're setting up his vet appointment (he's up to date on shots already) for microchipping and snipping. After that he'll be available for adoption. Let me know if anybody is interested in adopting him and I can help with the process. I doubt he makes it past our next adoption event.

If I was closer, I would love be to adopt him. I had to put my GSD Heidi ( picture in this thread) down due to cancer on Nov. 11. I miss her every day.


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[barnetmill]

Very interesting stuff. My grandfather used to parachute jump with his English Bulldog, now he's stuck with one of the Hollywood Rats. Poor guy. The white english bulldog have been around in the southern US likely for centuries also likely disappeared from England many years ago. The squat, pushed in face dog that is today called an English Bulldog is not at the same thing. From 1850 an english bulldog: The picture below shows when the dog breeders first rescued the breed after it had just about died out when bullfighting was outlawed. The head is only a little screw up. Way too much being undershot for the lower jaw, but it still looked like a bulldog. They were experimenting with crossing pug into the mixture then to help modify the skull.
http://www.andersonbulldogges.com/0history9.gif

Older painting of bull baiting
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[barnetmill]

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[barnetmill]

Dogue and the Wolf, France 1780-1830.
Andreas Alaunt (https://www.facebook.com/andreas.kimmel.73?fref=ufi) very nice. it actually shows how small the wolves in france were. from https://www.facebook.com/OldEnglishWhites/photos/a.361371950671658.1073741840.183572475118274/361372370671616/?type=3&theater


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[barnetmill]

Interesting story out of England where a legend has perhaps been unearthed or perhaps not.

https://external-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQB2G7BNsZc4F0s4&w=470&h=246&url=http%3A%2F%2Fufoholic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F11%2Fshuck.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1

(http://ufoholic.com/7-foot-tall-hellhound-skeleton-unearthed-near-ancient-monastery-in-uk/)
archaeologists might have uncovered a 16th century legendary hellhound.
Known by the name of Black Shuck – a name believed to derive from an old English word for black “demon”, the 7-foot tall dog appeared as a bringer of death in many tales from 500 years ago. In the 16th century, the inhabitants of the British Isles were horrified by the brutal deaths committed by this giant hellhound with burning red eyes.

It took about 500 years for archaeologists to uncover its earthly remains under the ruins of Leiston Abbey in Suffolk, in a nameless grave thirty inches deep, while several pottery fragments were covering its body. The massive dog skeleton was analyzed by a veterinarian who approximated its weigh at about 200 pounds when it lived, while measuring not less than 7 feet on its hind legs. http://ufoholic.com/7-foot-tall-hellhound-skeleton-unearthed-near-ancient-monastery-in-uk/

[Fjordforder]

Interesting story out of England where a legend has perhaps been unearthed or perhaps not.

https://external-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQB2G7BNsZc4F0s4&w=470&h=246&url=http%3A%2F%2Fufoholic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F11%2Fshuck.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1

(http://ufoholic.com/7-foot-tall-hellhound-skeleton-unearthed-near-ancient-monastery-in-uk/)
archaeologists might have uncovered a 16th century legendary hellhound.


200 pounds.
Two-Effing-Hundred.

[CaneCorso]

I think Cane Corsos are pretty fierce looking but are better hunting dogs rather than pure attack dogs.

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[barnetmill]

I think Cane Corsos are pretty fierce looking but are better hunting dogs rather than pure attack dogs.

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The modern cane corsos have been changed considerably from what they once where. Below is a picture of what once was.
The old rustic dogs of many guard breeds have been modified for the appearances that people want. First thing everyone wants is bigger to really huge. Little attention is paid toward health and the proper behavior. Most of the mastiff type dogs were long, lean-muscular, big boned animals. !20 lbs was good wt for a male. Now they often are a lot bigger. Below is an example of a rustic dog. They tended to range from white to darker. Shepherd guard dogs of flocks tend to be white and the guard dogs for home and estate tended to be darker.

Legend: This is a Cane Corso named Cork in Italy in 1978 before American destruction began.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n6/tacsatarmy/Cork1978_zps7f740141.jpg

Edited to add: Legend 'Early 19th century tapestry. Likely English based on the house. Brindle mastiff killing a wolf along with his masters.'
Once again the mastiff is a long, lean, muscular with robust bone structure.

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[BigEd63]

200 pounds.
Two-Effing-Hundred.

Makes me wonder if this breed or bred dog gone feral was inspiration for two fictional animals the Holmes "Hounds of the Baskervilles" and the Hobbit/LOTR "Wargs" both authors being British?

[barnetmill]

Makes me wonder if this breed or bred dog gone feral was inspiration for two fictional animals the Holmes "Hounds of the Baskervilles" and the Hobbit/LOTR "Wargs" both authors being British? I did have the same thought relative the hounds of the Baskervilles. I do not remember the Hobbit reference.

[BigEd63]

I did have the same thought relative the hounds of the Baskervilles. I do not remember the Hobbit reference.

Well the ones in the Hobbit movies seem more dog like than wolf like. IIRC on my Tolkien world the Wargs were a descended from some sort of demonic wolf dog. I'm thinking maybe Tolkien knew of this legend his background and all. I just don't know if the movie animals were based on Tolkien's sketch's or someone in Peter Jackson's studio.

[barnetmill]

in Greece and snapped this pic in Athens.


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[barnetmill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3z5sC1EUmU

[Togar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3z5sC1EUmU

My computer is now dripping with cute and iced tea...

[egalloway]

Kedar is our shop dog and family dog. Level 3 from creative kennels. Amazing dog. My buddy and kids favorite. 45854

[MacDuff]

Hey tribe. I was just fixing some lunch when I saw my dog and decided to see who else around here Cries havoc and lets them slip.
This is mine, his name is Griswold. It`s an old photo, he`s missing his front right leg since he ran in front of a Truck a while ago. It hasn`t slowed him down and I like to think of that leg as dead weight.
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[Tara_infidela]

Taser, our GERMAN Shepherd Dog. He's battle proven.

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[Glock45]

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If if anybody is looking for their very own Hound of War I know somebody who unfortunately needs to find a home for Daisy. She's a 2yo female Great Dane. My and my wife have two Danes and they're great dogs. They do best with lots of interaction from their masters so they're happiest kept inside with their family. Ours aren't destructive or high energy. Just really big lap dogs! We may end up watching her until she has a home so I'll know more about her temperment. I'd hate to see her go to a shelter.

[Bob F.]

Glock 45: Are those pics of Daisy or your dogs? Even bigger than my GSD. He can't quite lay his chin on the counter. Hope you can find Daisy a good home. 2 dogs and a cat are about all we can handle.

Tara: Unusual but beautiful coloring on Taser! I'll try to get some pics up later.

[Glock45]

Glock 45: Are those pics of Daisy or your dogs? Even bigger than my GSD. He can't quite lay his chin on the counter. Hope you can find Daisy a good home. 2 dogs and a cat are about all we can handle.

Tara: Unusual but beautiful coloring on Taser! I'll try to get some pics up later.

Thats Daisy. I have a black one too, but she has less white.

[barnetmill]

Here is big:
Mastín español / Spanish mastiff.
Crédito : www.mastifid.ee (http://www.mastifid.ee/)

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12241462_1008754259183390_5055877827841562622_n.jp g?oh=75414cbc4da90d15e6e3ddba0dac4270&oe=56E2A482

Here is even bigger. Central Asian Shepherd Dog from Alabai Calisa (https://www.facebook.com/emaibine.asa)
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[tomcatg]

One of mine..
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[barnetmill]

Here is a real old tyme English bulldog:
Posted by a French man that really knows and respects Bulldogs. He runs a very good strain of American Bulldogs to tend his cattle since the correct French Equivalent does not exist any more.
1852, Great Britain, Goats, cattle, sheep and chickens in front of a farm house, a dog guards the farmyard.
No doubt, this dog is the real old British farm Bulldog (small mastiff), not the city Pit Bulldog (a cross between this farm bulldog & terrier)
We can see as this type still existed in 1852 in the UK.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/12339093_665451400263710_8255906742285507518_o.jpg



Another photo from England in the Past with comment: from Heather
another old world real deal farm bulldog in England. .... Thanks Jean! This, folks, is a real deal old world farm bulldog, not some modern mongrelized version bred for extreme prey drive and used to hunt ...the exact opposite of what they're supposed to be. Can you imagine loosing a performance bred bulldog on this farm yard?! It would be a blood bath. This is historically correct and what we are preserving. https://www.facebook.com/groups/OWEPS/

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[barnetmill]

A pitbull who loyally stood guard over her unconscious owner after a house fire in Maryland two days ago has been kicked out of the county.
Prince George’s County animal control officers say the dog, named Precious, and her puppy shouldn’t have been living in the house because the county has a pitbull ban on its books.
The officers confiscated the dogs after Wednesday’s overnight fire. But now the dogs have gotten a new leash on life. The pooches were turned over to the owner’s sister who lives in another county where pitbulls aren't banned.
The Washington Post reports that a spokesman for the county fire department snapped a photo of Precious and her injured owner. The photo shows the dog loyally hovering over the woman after she barely escaped the fire and collapsed in her neighbor’s front yard.
Firefighters revived the woman after scaring away Precious with a fire extinguisher, the newspaper reported. The woman is expected to recover.
Flames burned her 65-year-old legally blind father’s face, WUSA-TV reported. He is also expected to recover. http://www.foxnews.com/…/pitbull-gets-kicked-out-county-a…/… (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/04/pitbull-gets-kicked-out-county-after-staying-by-injuried-owner-side-after-fire/?intcmp=obinsite)



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(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=510157442479076&set=gm.1105871709444582&type=3)

[barnetmill]

Buster Brown and his dog Tige for those of you too young remember was the character to sell a brand of shoes. In later pictures I think the dog was a boxer, this one I believe is pit bull. The next dog looks like they took from spanky and his gang.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12341516_510151645812989_4735567330568063006_n.jpg ?oh=4cdd3dd944cc266ebd21accd6bbad3d6&oe=57200FEC

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[Glock45]

Barnetmill,

Has anybody tried breeding smaller examples of the mastiff breeds in with Bulldogs to try and get their temperment more in line with how they used to be? They'd probably be big and goofy looking, but seems like they'd turn out be a decent dog.

[barnetmill]

Barnetmill,

Has anybody tried breeding smaller examples of the mastiff breeds in with Bulldogs to try and get their temperment more in line with how they used to be? They'd probably be big and goofy looking, but seems like they'd turn out be a decent dog.

There have been many experiments. I am not knowledgeable enough to say too much about it. You should read Heather's and Ray's Websites to get some initial information. Not everything they say is gospel, but they are certainly trying understand and breed Mastiff type dogs with the proper behavior. The big issue is what behavior do you want? Do you want a ban dog, guardian dogs for your children, a catch dog, or maybe even a dog for the chase. Mastiffs have been used in these roles and more. Many were used to pull carts and even in Goergia in the old days larger white english dogs were used for draft purposes.

THE American Bulldogs are examples of various breed mixings by people like Alan Scott and JD Johnston and many other people since then. Mastiff was put into these lines to get bigger dogs. These dogs were not superior in many ways to the white english stock that they started with, but people were happy with them. Some of them were much hotter which many did want. When you buy an American Bulldogs you really need to see the parents and grandparents of the dogs to know what you are buying since there are many separate lines due to the crossbreeding.

The White English group that I belong to "The Old White English Preservation Society" did try to breed down the size of their dogs to say 30-45 lb range, but the behavior was not what they wanted in a family companion guard dog. They just did not have the resources to have success from such a breeding program.

One thing I should clear up is that bulldogs are small mastiffs. The specialized behavior of bulldogs (modern Engish Bulldogs with pug in them not included) is that of a catch dog. Many mastiffs were also bred into smaller bull dog size animals of say 60-85 lbs to be war dogs. Almost gone now from the US. One of their traits was not to have the pit rear end. What are sold as mastiffs today are not what they were 200 years ago in most cases.
I think I may confused you more than helped.

[Glock45]

There have been many experiments. I am not knowledgeable enough to say too much about it. You should read Heather's and Ray's Websites to get some initial information. Not everything they say is gospel, but they are certainly trying understand and breed Mastiff type dogs with the proper behavior. The big issue is what behavior do you want? Do you want a ban dog, guardian dogs for your children, a catch dog, or maybe even a dog for the chase. Mastiffs have been used in these roles and more. Many were used to pull carts and even in Goergia in the old days larger white english dogs were used for draft purposes.

THE American Bulldogs are examples of various breed mixings by people like Alan Scott and JD Johnston and many other people since then. Mastiff was put into these lines to get bigger dogs. These dogs were not superior in many ways to the white english stock that they started with, but people were happy with them. Some of them were much hotter which many did want. When you buy an American Bulldogs you really need to see the parents and grandparents of the dogs to know what you are buying since there are many separate lines due to the crossbreeding.

The White English group that I belong to "The Old White English Preservation Society" did try to breed down the size of their dogs to say 30-45 lb range, but the behavior was not what they wanted in a family companion guard dog. They just did not have the resources to have success from such a breeding program.

One thing I should clear up is that bulldogs are small mastiffs. The specialized behavior of bulldogs (modern Engish Bulldogs with pug in them not included) is that of a catch dog. Many mastiffs were also bred into smaller bull dog size animals of say 60-85 lbs to be war dogs. Almost gone now from the US. One of their traits was not to have the pit rear end. What are sold as mastiffs today are not what they were 200 years ago in most cases.
I think I may confused you more than helped.

Thank you for all the great information. I'll read up on their website. I got thinking about it while watching how my 1 year old Dane moved and ran. She's small for the breed, but she is very quick on her feet and moves more gracefully than larger Danes I've been around. It seems like when people bred for size they lost some of the coordination that made these dogs so impressive. I also think temperment suffered when people lost of the fact that size doesn't necessarily mean a dog is a good example of a mastiff-style breed.

[barnetmill]

Thank you for all the great information. I'll read up on their website. I got thinking about it while watching how my 1 year old Dane moved and ran. She's small for the breed, but she is very quick on her feet and moves more gracefully than larger Danes I've been around. It seems like when people bred for size they lost some of the coordination that made these dogs so impressive. I also think temperment suffered when people lost of the fact that size doesn't necessarily mean a dog is a good example of a mastiff-style breed. Here is a little more that I thought I had posted but something went wrong.

WHAT IS A BULLDOG short discussion

"It's amazing what some people call a bulldog." Ray L




Opinions vary..... but one thing is certain A real bulldog can not be mistaken. -American Legendz

John LS It varies from hillarious to downright insulting what most call a bulldog.


Heather (https://www.facebook.com/heather.wilkins.7?fref=ufi) To call an OWE as a 'bulldog' is incorrect. Most would assume I'm defending the WE as the true bulldog. Not so at all. The WEbreed has two types, mastiff and bulldog, with the mastiff type being the older. "The Beisser/Bulldog type is defined as the true holding and pinning dogs first developed in Germany for the use of sporting noblemen on the hunt and later in Western Europe for the blood sport of bull-baiting. Their use as a hunting dog by sporting nobleman classifies the Beissers as a sporting and hunting dog. The bulldog, by definition, has always been a sporting dog used by sportsmen in the blood sports of the baiting ring. The Beisser type was first recorded in history in Germany in the 5th Century AD. "In Germanic law from the fifth and seventh centuries AD, these Hunting Dogs were recorded in writing for the first time." Dr. Dieter Fleig. The bulldog did not exist, (by name or the sport it was used for), until after the Elizabethan era. It was first recorded by name in 1609 in England. "The term Mastiff until after the age of Elizabeth was used for both mastiff and bulldog, being applied merely to denote a house or watch dog. ... The bulldog became defined by the sport it was used for..." Wynn 1888.
"The tractability that had so characterized the white farmer’s mastiff went out the door." Just as was done 400 years ago, the bulldog was separated from the mastiff, yet today the division between the two have blurred. This is why we are showing the clear distinction between the OWE and the WEB, once again separating the two; the mastiff and the bulldog. they are rustic mastiff in type and temperament." Both of my dogs are cousins.
One of my dogs is a WEB or a white english bulldog and the other is a OWE since she acts and looks like the extinct white shepherd's mastiffs of long ago. There are other bulldogs breeds. The boxer at one time was a german bulldog, but much of that has been bred out of them.
Picture below shows the head type of the OWE which most older mastiffs type dogs have. The plane of the muzzle and top of the head are parallel. Forehead is low. Nasal cavities are not restricted and results in a much healthier dog all-around.

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[barnetmill]

Alligator pup

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[Fjordforder]

Alligator pup

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I have a dog that`ll do that, but only with his hind legs. He`ll fold the front pair underneath.

[barnetmill]

Memphis snuck in a little treasure. Often when she has something precious she runs into house hoping I will not see her latest chew toy and make her drop it.. She successfully snuck (not sneaked) it in with a very unwelcome tick that is present on her shoulder. She is a little over two and half years, but has not filled in. She has a big head and deep chest. She is long and the rear end is light. I think she is close to 90 lbs. A litter mate sister is past 100 lbs, but is more filled in.



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[jaowens]

Mine just potentially saved our house. He started raising Cain and held up at the door. Then he jumped out his doggy door and continued barking.
I went out side and saw the corner of my yard on fire. After putting it out on our side of the fence and having the FD put out the neighbors yard I gave him 2 treats.

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[barnetmill]

Mine just potentially saved our house. He started raising Cain and held up at the door. Then he jumped out his doggy door and continued barking.
I went out side and saw the corner of my yard on fire. After putting it out on our side of the fence and having the FD put out the neighbors yard I gave him 2 treats.

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A small dog with a real big heart.

[Fjordforder]

A small dog with a real big heart.

Agreed. Dog did its job and deserves a treat for it...

[emtdaddy1980]

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Does this count. It's my wifes new pet. She calls him Calvin but I'm teaching him to answer to Muhammad [emoji23]

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[Fjordforder]

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Does this count. It's my wifes new pet. She calls him Calvin but I'm teaching him to answer to Muhammad [emoji23]

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Well Hogs of war sounds cooler...
Just sayin
Nice name, if you could get him to walk backwards and answer to that would be the icing on the cake.

[emtdaddy1980]

He's pretty damn smart actually, I can probably have him moonwalking by the end of rhe week...... Now I just need to find some pages from a Qur'an to line his liter box and life will be good.

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[emtdaddy1980]

People laugh at it.... But while it's no pitbull the grown up version of this guy will be approximately 50 lbs have tusks, a powerful jaw, be very loyal to its people and not particularly fond of strangers.

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[Fjordforder]

Just make sure to get us pics.

[Paper Shredder]

Memphis snuck in a little treasure. Often when she has something precious she runs into house hoping I will not see her latest chew toy and make her drop it.. She successfully snuck (not sneaked) it in with a very unwelcome tick that is present on her shoulder. She is a little over two and half years, but has not filled in. She has a big head and deep chest. She is long and the rear end is light. I think she is close to 90 lbs. A litter mate sister is past 100 lbs, but is more filled in.



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It's funny that her "chew toy" is a log... I mean that size could burn for an hour!

[barnetmill]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20151226/a6b8bd1954acb20666851864fcda2006.jpg

Does this count. It's my wifes new pet. She calls him Calvin but I'm teaching him to answer to Muhammad [emoji23]

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk The pigs deserves to be called by a better name. One that does not dishonor it. A friend was once thinking of a catching a local feral piglet and raising up to be a guard animal after seeing someone that kept a razor back hog for that.

[barnetmill]

He's pretty damn smart actually, I can probably have him moonwalking by the end of rhe week...... Now I just need to find some pages from a Qur'an to line his liter box and life will be good.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk Go to a muslim religious store or better yet phone up a muslim mail order outfit and tell them your are looking for large size pages of the koran to line a pigs liter box. Tell them you wish to raise the cleanliness of the pig to a higher level.

[henri]

Go to a muslim religious store or better yet phone up a muslim mail order outfit and tell them your are looking for large size pages of the koran to line a pigs liter box. Tell them you wish to raise the cleanliness of the pig to a higher level.
NO NO NO! That would defile the pig and its litter box.

[barnetmill]

Brutus is pouting:

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[barnetmill]

My mother asked if I could still hold her like I did when she was a few months old.. Well I can still pick her up at 9 months old, but she is almost too heavy for me to pick up.

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[TyGuy04]

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Doing some cold weather training. Now if I could just figure out how to get this picture right side up

[barnetmill]

The breeder of my white warrior dog Ray Lane also breeds other types of warrior dogs. He typically feeds them them deer meat which seems plentiful in his locale.

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[barnetmill]

(https://www.facebook.com/CAO-Central-AsianOvcharka-Shepherd-Dog-639408892769407/?ref=stream)
CAO Cetral Asian-Ovcharka Shepherd Dog



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[tomcatg]

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Newest addition..stud fee pup

[barnetmill]

Southern Brazil-an old photo of family with their dogs. A lot immigrants took their bulldogs from germany and neighboring countries to Brazil.

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[barnetmill]

He babysits the yorkie puppies too

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[barnetmill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJa-gLmJrUk

[back2basics]

This is my 16/mo old girl Abby. She went to war with me all winter and for many more ton come. She is back at trainers and going for her MH cert this summer.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160311/649e9e610fa9ef14b4cc954e6cbd6d19.jpg


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[barnetmill]

Note the bulldog in what appears to be a drawing from 1855 of the presidential election. Those southern dogs look exactly the same today.
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[barnetmill]

I man that had attacked his wife and that had murdered another woman broke into a house and was chased and held at bay in the basement until police could effect an arrest. For details see http://doggiescare.com/american-bulldog-saves-family-keeping-murderer/#
https://rudefeed.com/wp-content/uploads/heroic-bulldog-saves-familys-lives-by-keeping-murderer-at-bay2.jpg
https://rudefeed.com/wp-content/uploads/heroic-bulldog-saves-familys-lives-by-keeping-murderer-at-bay1.jpg

[barnetmill]

You do not often see dogs and cats lie down together
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[BigEd63]

My first German Shepard was like that with the cats outside, that belonged here that is.

He was their protector from any stray/feral ones.

[Fjordforder]

My first German Shepard was like that with the cats outside, that belonged here that is.

He was their protector from any stray/feral ones.

My big baby is like that but only one of the two cats appreciates it.

[barnetmill]

My big baby is like that but only one of the two cats appreciates it.
when i got the cat my oldest dog was about 6 months old and she of course wanted to attack and was restrained from doing so. But still when something tried to get at cat she (She is southern bulldog of the white English type) wanted to go outside and bite butt. Sometimes the 2 dogs and cat will lie down near one another, but the dogs still get a kick out chasing her, but never do anything to cat. Cat seems seems to stick close to the dogs. she will not venture far from the house unless following me and the dogs or now just the dogs. They will defend the cat even if they to some extent mistreat her. Whatever the cat kills the dogs take away from her and will among themselves bicker-fight over it. But who said bulldogs and mastiffs always nice.

[barnetmill]

Taking the dog biscuit taste test These employees taste the doggie treats that bakery makes and sell. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/taking-the-dog-biscuit-taste-test/ http://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/04/08/ae76e95d-7ca1-46f2-977a-5d7fbfeed718/thumbnail/620x350/397f4d58005b4fb00fb5fcd85e2772b8/bocces-bakery-dog-biscuit-taste-testers-620.jpg

[tomcatg]

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More dogs of war for my pack.

[RonaldBeal]

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Mine passed away this week.
He sucked as a guard dog, but was a great friend.

[Fjordforder]

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Mine passed away this week.
He sucked as a guard dog, but was a great friend.

Very sorry to hear it. It's much harder to find a person more forgiving than a good dog.

[tomcatg]

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Mine passed away this week.
He sucked as a guard dog, but was a great friend.

Sorry to hear that, my Dad raised beagles. Good buddies are hard to find :(

[barnetmill]

I follow several facebooks on fighting and guard dogs which are basically warrior dogs for sure being mastiffs and bulldogs. It is interesting how confusing a field that it is. Below a picture from 'american Pressa Bandog', and a post by AC.


AV March 23 · thirty inches, a hundred and thirty pounds....a life support and delivery system for a set of jaws....bbbwhahahaha



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my response- I say mastiff, but call it what ever lol

Gary G. Head types are that of a bulldog..American Bulldog.
Ray Lane-
Actually, most American Bulldogs are Bullmastiff in form and funtion. APBT [American pit bull terrier] are used in my area as "Working Bulldogs" to pin cattle, and the larger "Whites" are used to guard cattle, ect "Working Mastiffs". The cross of these two types would then produce a "Working Bullmastiff type" aka WEB [white english bulldog]. But, as now proven by DNA, American Bulldopgs are quite an amalgamtion of various modern breeds, with some "Now Extinct" breed as a base genetic template.
"Any long-established breed's history is suspect, because we simply have no way of knowing the actual facts of a breed's formation. In the case of our breed, I believe that the history of the (English) Bull Terrier was borrowed by early writers on the breed."
This is the APBT, Stratton, 1976

In fact, I believe many breeds had borrowed the EBT story as the origins of their breed (Simply because it was popular in Show/Pet circles). IMO, both the APBT and Old Farm Bulldogs owe their origins to the Old Spanish War Dogs, which is well known of our Southern Cur breeds, that take cattle by the nose....

"In any case, it is clear that dogs of this breed came from various parts of Europe, specifically Spain and Sicily."
This is the APBT, Stratton, 1976"

[mfjudge]

My late buddy Breezy...2001-2014...a dog of leisure...

[barnetmill]

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[barnetmill]

Mastin tradicional español. (Zamora). https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209327023722514&set=gm.1187124224652663&type=3&theater

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[barnetmill]

Bon Vivant for sure: A french man and his wife having a picnic with their dogs. The Hounds for hunting, a real french bulldogue/mastiff to protect the homestead. Strictly that dog's rear end looks really weak and even then people were beginning to degrade what had been dogs that had stood the test of millennia. The head on that dog is not the head that one sees on the classic statues of a dog fighting the wolf.

Old French postcard with the hounds and the Dogue de Bordeaux -1906- .

source: Vintage Dog A Day https://www.facebook.com/groups/637447839620307/1188215604543525/?notif_t=group_activity&notif_id=1461074221505661


Adrianne, Brandy, and 4 others like it this. Posted by Heather H.W.

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[barnetmill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM1suDu-G6k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d9U_wEfieY

[barnetmill]

"Wardogs in the American Civil War"

http://afmastiffs.weebly.com/uploads/2/2/5/2/2252790/6343253.jpg?257

[barnetmill]

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[H60DoorGunner]

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[barnetmill]

Kayserili "Turbo" monster Grandson 2x2 inbreeding to Legend Kayserili "Alos" and great grandson of Legend Kayserili "Toros" — with Yörük Kemal (https://www.facebook.com/yoruk.kemal.3), Cemal Dener (https://www.facebook.com/cemal.dener.39) and Jim Mills (https://www.facebook.com/JimMills2) in Kayseri, Turkey (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kayseri-Turkey/116043768410018?ref=stream).
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[laxman2979]

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[Bob F.]

Great pack ya' got there, lax.....

[Jeromy Hasenkamp]

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My door stop and early warning device...

[barnetmill]

A face book post by
Heather H W of (https://www.facebook.com/heather.wilkins.7?fref=photo)Old White English Preservation Society (https://www.facebook.com/groups/OWEPS/)


catch dog I produced way back. 3/4 CWE (Carr White English) 1/4 AB (American Bull Dog)


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[barnetmill]

Memphis at her regal best. Tiles are one foot sq to give prospective. She is a white english farm dog of the old type. Nails au natural.

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[Fjordforder]

Most recent pics I have of Griswold, he was hit by a truck about this time a few years ago. Went from a free puppy to a $6000 dog. He still chews his hair out and gets all stressed about this time of year too but right now he`s actually doing pretty good.

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[barnetmill]

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[barnetmill]

If I find you outside of this fence I will catch you by the ear.
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[barnetmill]

Dog saves young child from rattlesnake.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6ycVcql58c

[barnetmill]

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[Bob F.]

Yeah, Barnetmill, ya' nailed it! My GSD thinks the whitetails and the neighbors kids are deadly threats.

[barnetmill]

White english bulldogs driving cart in Hawkinsville, GA
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[barnetmill]

Warrior dogs are supposed to guard my orchard. It is said the guardians of the well never lack for water and what are these two noble and loyal fruit guardians eating, LOL? These two white english farm dogs have learned to pick pears from low lying branches. Pears being eaten are immature Hood type pears that will not be ready for picking until early july or that is next month from now.
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[barnetmill]

The 'modern' old English bulldogs are usually not considered to be much due to the deformities that have been introduced to that breed by the dog show and pet breeder. But here is one with a lot of heart.


Here's a perfect example of what I was saying. I used to work this English bulldog and he had more drive than most dogs, but mechanically didn't have the best mouth so I always had to work him with puppy sleeve. He was really undershot and didn't have the widest mouth in the world. But what he lacked in physical ability he made up in drive. He would pass out before he quit. Can you imagine if he had a better mouth.



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[Ajackz]

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She abides by the Castle Law. My neighbor(whom she knows very well) found out the hard way. My Father in law found out their will be no disciplining of the children if im not in her view.

My Wife had to get her own dog because Kimber is not at all a lap dog.


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[Paper Shredder]

U know what's really funny? I have a buddy named AJ with a dog named Kimber... Only his is a hound.. Not a GSD

[barnetmill]

Question is:
How many ab's can you count? Hint there are four solid whites

AB's means american bulldogs

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There are 10 there.

[barnetmill]

JA writes: "Lost my girl Sidney. She was the Queen on my yard and hard as nails bitch. Sweet with the kids and great on and off switch. She will be missed"

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[barnetmill]

Guarding her masters spirits for him and his warrior friends.
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[barnetmill]

A very noble dog
A friends daughter and bulldog. Hes (the dog) dying of cancer.
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[barnetmill]

Perfect bite and teeth Posted by Кирил Кирилов (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002007600734)

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[Fjordforder]

A few photos I`ve come across of the Kriegshunden.

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[Bob F.]

Great post fjordforder!

[Fjordforder]

Thank you!

[tweek]

It's been a while: We just took in Gabe our new foster. He's a 2.5 year old male pure bred GSD (has papers). He has basic obedience training, is high energy, very playful and affectionate. Super dog.
He'll be ready for adoption by next week if anybody is interested in him. He's located in DFW Texas.

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[barnetmill]

Not warrior dogs, but still a good picture
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[barnetmill]

southern warrior gal and her white english bulldog. Painting from a facebook we page.
Not everyone is a mindless politically correct weakling.

heather: Oh look. Me!
Adrianne: Hell yeah!
Heather: You! Fo sho

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[barnetmill]

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[Bob F.]

Great Pyrenees?? (Sp?)

[barnetmill]

Great Pyrenees?? (Sp?)

Most unlikely it is a Great Pyrenees. There are series of dogs from the mountains in the Urals, turkey, central asia, etc that look similar that are very large guard dogs for livestock and the homestead. They are certainly related to the Great Pyrenees, but are much heavier dogs and are often given spiked collars. Those regions today have large wolves, snow leopards (central asia), and bears. At one time those regions of Asia had tigers and lions. Those are now gone. The dog group I belong believe that all of the mastiff types breeds of dogs likely have their origins in that general area of Asia. Many large mastiff breeds have been derived from these dogs over the millennia. The Pyrenees were likely descended from dogs brought by Alani tribes at the time huge numbers of people started entering the Roman empire in large numbers, especially about the 5th century AD. In fact there were mastiff like shepherd dogs in France alaunts and in spain called Alanos named after one of the tribes of these people. Even german shepherds are related to such dogs. The are white german shepherds that are said to behave differently than the dark ones. The sheep guarding dogs tend to be white. Herding dogs usually are not pure white.
Central asian shepherd dog
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This is a good facebook page (Alaunt and Alano Information). You want to read discussions that have Ray Lane or Heather Wilkins in them. Gary that moderates that page is quite liberal about what people post there so there will be some nonsense from some foreign posts. There was a woman in Poland that was raising and hunting Catahoulas which is fine except she was calling them Alaunts when the proper term for them is a Cur dog. Likely have some alaunt in them for sure. Another group in England had grey bull lurchers (Greyhound x pitbull) being called alaunts. They let it go. But that is a place to start and there is another webpage that explains this from the perspective of the american south for our bulldogs.
http://oweps.weebly.com/ This site is strongly oriented to Georgia dogs, but does discuss others such as the feared extinct Cuban Bloodhound. Just like the training methods of Gabe are controversial, their take on bulldogs has given them enemies. They refuse to put their dogs in dog shows saying this ruins dog breeds and do not charge a whole lot for what they produce while some people do charge a lot more. Heather the leader of group has been giving her dogs away to chosen people or charges very little and has no breeding planned at all for a while. The two dogs in my avatar are mostly based on Georgia stock and shows my two as pups.
What dog shows do to bull breeds.

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[Bob F.]

Barnetmill, I'm just a "dog lover", not nearly as knowledgeable as you. I just knew it was a big white dog; looks as though he's seen his share of action. I follow this thread with great interest, especially the white bulls.
Thanks for educating me, or trying to!!!

[barnetmill]

Dog saves toddler from copper head. Dog does get bitten.
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http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/193353273-story

[barnetmill]

Barnetmill, I'm just a "dog lover", not nearly as knowledgeable as you. I just knew it was a big white dog; looks as though he's seen his share of action. I follow this thread with great interest, especially the white bulls.
Thanks for educating me, or trying to!!!
What I have is knowledge derived from reading. There are dogmen that are semi-literate that have a lot of practical knowledge learned from life; they also have a way with dogs which is part innate and part from long experience. I do not have a good way with dogs so I have chosen a breed that are most submissive to the master, but are still capable of fighting to the death if needed. By the way some of the more recently bred types of white bully dogs are not always that way. People do not cull bad dogs like they use to. Any of my animals that challenge me as alpha or growl at a child or puppy die asap.

[barnetmill]

I find this one very hard to believe. If you look closely there is a dog riding in the wagon with the humans.


"Thanks to Lee Fox for this really unusual look back in time. This is Butternut, Wisconsin 1890ish. This family had found a litter of homeless wolf pups and brought them home and raised them.
Everyone had their chores and it looks like the family wolf pack is filling in as the team of horses they didn't have.
This was strange even for Butternut as it caused someone to take this rare picture of Butternut's main street."

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[barnetmill]

Poor old warrior is dying of cancer
He's lasted longer than the vet said he would. My friends terminally sick dog. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207069917134924&set=gm.774411645995350&type=3&theater

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[Bob F.]

Man, hate to hear that. Always very tough to loose 'em. My Labradoodle is suffering from severe arthritis and maybe some senility.......

[HeavySmoke]

Well I have my 4 legged fire team complete. The 3 newest additions got all their shots today. We live out in the middle of nowhere on 40 acres so good dogs are important. That puts us at 5 bullies. My oldest one, Sox, gave us a laugh today, air conditioner repairman came out. She followed him around the whole time, when he tried to say hi to the kids she growled at him. Keep in mind she is 115 pounds of overprotective momma dog. He looked at me like he had a gun pointed at him. I just patted her head.....

[BearMBD]

Poor old warrior is dying of cancer

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I am sorry to hear that. Please enjoy the time you have with the pup.

I lost my best friend (that I posted earlier) to cancer, in November. I took her to vet, they said it was metastasized cancer and had fluid around lungs. I had to put her to rest hours later, due to uncontrollable internal bleeding. I would have given anything to have 1 more day with her. I still miss her greatly.


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[barnetmill]

The poor fellow is a third party's dog. Heather HW originally posted it for a white english dog near her in Georgia. She is the world's foremost expert in WE dogs. I simply posted her post. Thanks for the kind thoughts.

Poor old warrior is dying of cancer He's lasted longer than the vet said he would. My friends terminally sick dog. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207069917134924&set=gm.774411645995350&type=3&theater)

[SARGeek]

Our newest (sort of). She'll be a year old in late Sept. Not sure what happened with her ears but that's how we got her at 8 weeks and we couldn't care less. She's a sweetie but she already knows her job. Alert bark last night and by the time I could get to the door she was barking at (front) whoever had been there decided it was a bad idea because they were gone already. She was 75lbs at 8 months, not sure where she's at now.

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[barnetmill]

Our newest (sort of). She'll be a year old in late Sept. Not sure what happened with her ears but that's how we got her at 8 weeks and we couldn't care less. She's a sweetie but she already knows her job. Alert bark last night and by the time I could get to the door she was barking at (front) whoever had been there decided it was a bad idea because they were gone already. She was 75lbs at 8 months, not sure where she's at now.


She has a strong looking rear end which is good.

[SARGeek]

She has a strong looking rear end which is good.

Agreed. I have always been a fan of the working bloodlines GSDs for both temperament and health reasons as opposed to the show lines. We are trying to keep her active and feed her right early to build up the muscle and help prevent any hip issues down the road. Her food budget is pretty much like having another kid in the house. :D

[barnetmill]

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[barnetmill]

Agreed. I have always been a fan of the working bloodlines GSDs for both temperament and health reasons as opposed to the show lines. We are trying to keep her active and feed her right early to build up the muscle and help prevent any hip issues down the road. Her food budget is pretty much like having another kid in the house. :D
The original GSD was of the mountains and guarded sheep and such. They really changed the rear end on them a lot to the point they are not natural.
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[Ajackz]

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This was Kimbers one year birthday present from me. I decided I wanted her to have something special, went up to my dads farm and spotted some turkey and deer. She wanted to chase em so bad her teeth where chattering and her body was shaking. In removed her prong collar and gave her the "Gitem", she went off like a rocket. I was a little worried about her catching a spur to the face but it was an unwarranted worry. Hens don't have spurs lol.


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[Bob F.]

She looks so proud in that top pic!
Happy Birthday, Kimber!

[ronlassit]

Sorry, no pics yet, but we have three, a mountain feist, a staffordshire bull terrier, and a boxer. If anyone were to try to assault myself or my better half, the staffordshire and the boxer would come unglued, which I really appreciate.

[Bob F.]

See if I can upload a pic:
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I'll figure out how to turn it, he's not doing a tail stand! About 125lbs Just a companion.

[Bob F.]

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There we go!

[Fjordforder]

I geared up Griswold yesterday. The FLC vest doesn`t fit quite right because of his missing leg but he adored the attention he got while wearing it. I might have to find a way to even it out so he can carry at least a couple mags or some food next we`re out in the woods.

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[barnetmill]

Peek a boo. White dog is a closely related cousin to my white english and other dog is her son (and father is an american bulldog type).
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[barnetmill]

My two would have been trying most likely to sample the beer. They consume everything lol.

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[wfbont007]

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[Paper Shredder]

Had a very good steak dinner with buddies last night. 35oz porterhouse... And the little alarm system got a treat for her performance the other month. She did however take "National Dog Day" and shit all over the baby's room because she was jealous.

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