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judomayhem
03-20-2013, 07:10 PM
The game is what it is, but when I think of the mental, financial, and time cost involved in dealing with governmental bullsheet my grandfather wasn't constrained with as he made his first million, it gets a me a bit riled. - Judo

Wednesday, March 20th, 2013 Re-reading Atlas Shrugged for the umptieth time (but the first time in 10 years) has inspired that dangerous activity: thinking.
One part of the book that still holds up for me is Francisco’s money speech (http://capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-speech/). That’s despite it being a speech. In the middle of a novel. It’s short, it’s brilliant, and it serves a plot-related purpose. I especially like this part:

“ ...[civil] society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter.
“Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society’s virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion–when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing–when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors–when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you–when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice–you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that is does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot.
“Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men’s protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked, ‘Account overdrawn.’”
You know that I don’t like spending lots of time on theory. But clearly, we’re already living in the days of “account overdrawn.” It’s not theory that corruption of a country’s money supply goes hand-in-hand with cynicism, political corruption, and a “live for today because tomorrow will never come” mentality.
Most people who think about it at all...probably understand there’s a connection between debased money and debased values. From what I’ve seen, though, people who think only casually about it make the assumption that the debasement of money is just another symptom of corruption — that corruption comes first and crooked money is just one way that corruption is expressed.
The reality is more complex. Sure, corruption feeds on corruption and a lot of chicken-and-egg goes on. But it’s clear that corruption of a society’s money supply comes before general social corruption. Corrupting money triggers other forms of corruption. Once people realize, even on an unconscious level, that they’re being played for suckers by those who control the money (and the various groups the controllers favor and the various dangerous adventures the controllers want to get into), it only makes sense to either participate in the debasement (“to get my share”) or do whatever it takes (including committing “crimes”) to protect oneself.
Thus corruption of the money supply sets off a cascade of corruption and cynicism.
Francisco doesn’t explain this in his speech, which is a pity. Austrians try, but their messages (often couched in obscure academic language) don’t reach many people. I certainly don’t have the right words or a big enough audience.
But it’s something more people need to understand. Because without that understanding, virtually every attempt at “reform” is merely flailing away at the leaves and twigs of corruption, and doesn’t even get at the branches, let alone strike the root.

Full read here: http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/ClaireWolfe/2013/03/20/money-and-morality/#more-13512

Liberty or Death
03-20-2013, 07:13 PM
I believe Taipan has one of her later books. Signed even.

judomayhem
03-20-2013, 07:19 PM
Strong chance I sent it to him. I bought a case from her, and spread the wealth around. :P

Gun Mutt
03-21-2013, 04:17 AM
I've been a fan ever since the gunrag-that-shall-not-be-named introduced me to her. Remember? Right before they kicked her out the door? Which was right before they fell all over themselves to get her back?

Gabriel Suarez
03-21-2013, 06:19 AM
She seems to have the notion however that piracy is a bad thing that good men are pushed to. I disagree. Piracy is what governments do under the auspices of authority. That non-government entities selecting that path is somehow "less legitimate" is naive. I see the selection of that path not as some evil good men are pushed to but rather a choice borne of clarity once a man has organized his loyalties properly.

michael
03-21-2013, 06:28 AM
Has anyone read Anthem? I've got it, but haven't read it yet.

Base Bleed
03-21-2013, 06:58 AM
She seems to have the notion however that piracy is a bad thing that good men are pushed to. I disagree. Piracy is what governemnets do under the auspices of authority. That non-government entities select that path is somehow less legitimate is naive. I see the selection of that path not as some evil good men are pushed to but rather a chice borne of clarity once a man has organized his loyalties properly.

Bingo.
Government does that which is criminal for the individual to do.

God & Tribe

bavarian
03-21-2013, 12:18 PM
Bingo.
Government does that which is criminal for the individual to do.

God & Tribe
Have an eye on Cypros the next days, rumor is that the EUSSR initially wanted to rob 40% on all savings in bank-accounts.

Base Bleed
03-21-2013, 01:55 PM
A few less than upstanding web pharmacies (allegedly Russian) track back to Cyprus. I'm assuming that EU thought that Russian organized crime would not say too much in an effort to not expose themselves. Looks like that wasn't the case.

God & Tribe

Danneskjold
03-22-2013, 02:14 AM
Bingo.
Government does that which is criminal for the individual to do.

God & Tribe

St. Augustine’s quote in The City of God: “Indeed, that was an apt and true reply which was given to Alexander the Great by a pirate who had been seized. For when that king had asked the man what he meant by keeping hostile possession of the sea, he answered with bold pride, ‘What thou meanest by seizing the whole earth; but because I do it with a petty ship, I am called a robber, whilst thou who dost it with a great fleet art styled emperor.’” (Book IV, chapter 4)

CaptBeach
03-22-2013, 05:24 AM
Good food...for thought...

Gabriel Suarez
03-22-2013, 06:59 AM
A few less than upstanding web pharmacies (allegedly Russian) track back to Cyprus. I'm assuming that EU thought that Russian organized crime would not say too much in an effort to not expose themselves. Looks like that wasn't the case.

God & Tribe

Less than upstanding = does not pay governmental extortion fees, nothing more or less.

Base Bleed
03-22-2013, 07:34 AM
You know me better than that, Gabe:).

Less than upstanding in this case means adulterated products with poorly controlled manufacturing standards...think WASR Brand Pharmaceuticals.

I'm all about free market medicine. It is the buyer's responsibility to do their due diligence. Gov has no business being involved in any industry.



God & Tribe

BillyOblivion
03-23-2013, 10:32 AM
Less than upstanding = does not pay governmental extortion fees, nothing more or less.

The USG has caught counterfit pills coming in from China that didn't exactly contain what they claimed. Now maybe the Russian mobsters are more honest than the Chinese criminals, but I'm not betting so.

Dorkface
03-23-2013, 11:25 AM
Fransisco's speech seems to be just screaming about rehypothecation. Or rather that it is one of the methods that the destroyers are using however I don't think they are being as deliberate as say Soros. Sure there will always be ones like Dagney Taggart and Hank Rearden who have to try till the bitter end just as Rand said but eventually even they jump ship and become pirates... Some like Galt, Fransisco and Ragnar got there much sooner. With Ragnar being a literal Pirate reclaiming that which was stolen unjustly.

I think it should be tempered with a little bit of Leonidas from 300 as the persians were advancing on them: "Give them nothing, But take from them... EVERYTHING!"

Gabriel Suarez
03-23-2013, 11:38 AM
If we mean poor quality or false products, then we should say. Once we learn how EPA and FDA eally work a total revision of definitions are needed.

fidalgoman
04-05-2013, 04:14 PM
Perhaps one thing I do agree with Rand about is that as a government declines into entitlements and socialism those providers becoming less numerous and robbed of their hard earned goods must find new and “creative” means or perish from being bled dry. So as far as the story went I do agree with Francisco’s speech.

I can’t remember the name but there is a financial philosophy that uses an algorithm to define the “optimum” financial stress in taxation a government should place upon a company before it will collapse. In other-words how much blood can be drawn from the patient and yet still remain alive.