View Full Version : Anthony Bourdain American Cheesburger French style
Francisp
02-28-2013, 11:33 PM
Some good hints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afWK65oOdIw
Francisp
03-01-2013, 12:50 AM
Healthier Gordon Ramsay alternative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afWK65oOdIw
Fulanito
03-01-2013, 08:14 AM
Sure Bourdain smokes and drinks is sarcastic and obnoxious...that is exactly what I like about him. He is watchable and entertaining. No show is the same. Travel to strange places, great food.... I like food and I like to cook. He has one of the few decent food programs.
Also instead of butter, try California Extra Olive Virgin Olive oil. Has a buttery taste and less of all the bad stuff. One of the few dietary changes that don't taste crappy. I also do my steaks. pork and chicken this way on the grill.
Another place I have found good / easy food ideas in "Mansome".
AlexSpartan
03-01-2013, 09:38 AM
Looks amazing. I cook with butter quite frequently, and with coconut oil. There is some debate as to whether olive oil is okay to cook with, as it has a low smoking point, and if it's smoking it means its burnt, and that means its oxidized. But, I still cook with olive oil. Butter is actually not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, and it's actually quite good, especially if it's grass-fed and organic (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/grass-fed-butter/#axzz2MJ4l7E1t). The only thing I would change about that burger is the cheese. American processed, Kraft cheese? No, thank you. I'll take a smoked gouda or smoked provolone or smoked swiss on my burger (any cheese that's smoked adds all kinds of awesome flavor).
WD_40
03-01-2013, 10:46 AM
Looks amazing. I cook with butter quite frequently, and with coconut oil. There is some debate as to whether olive oil is okay to cook with, as it has a low smoking point, and if it's smoking it means its burnt, and that means its oxidized. But, I still cook with olive oil. Butter is actually not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, and it's actually quite good, especially if it's grass-fed and organic (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/grass-fed-butter/#axzz2MJ4l7E1t). The only thing I would change about that burger is the cheese. American processed, Kraft cheese? No, thank you. I'll take a smoked gouda or smoked provolone or smoked swiss on my burger (any cheese that's smoked adds all kinds of awesome flavor).
You and I are on the same page when it comes to food, especially butter and oils. Kerrygold Irish butter is a staple in my household. It's pricey, comparatively speaking, but now there's no going back.
Mr. Anthony
03-01-2013, 11:37 AM
Kerrygold Irish butter is a staple in my household. It's pricey, comparatively speaking, but now there's no going back.
DING DING DING!!!! About 70% of my diet is from fat, and Kerrygold butter is a fantastic part of it. Don't even get me started on their Dubliner Cheese. Sweet Jeezabel.
Shoot Bricks
03-01-2013, 12:15 PM
Butter all day. The idea that saturated fat causes heart disease has been put to bed by the scientific community. Unfortunately, it is still pervasive in the mainstream, and many doctors and dietitians (not all of them), don't actually read any research.
baker
03-01-2013, 01:51 PM
We buy a AA unsalted butter at the bakery, then whip in Brittany grey sea salt. We sell lots of it, and my house is never without it.
I cook low temp in olive oil all the time. My favorite for higher temps is duck fat, speaking of French.
Vigilant
03-01-2013, 03:15 PM
Healthier Gordon Ramsay alternative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afWK65oOdIwIt's a burger man, no "healthier" options exist! 73/27 or 80/20 BEEF, butter, bacon, S&P, enjoy!:veryhappy:
Fulanito
03-01-2013, 03:19 PM
Butter all day. The idea that saturated fat causes heart disease has been put to bed by the scientific community. Unfortunately, it is still pervasive in the mainstream, and many doctors and dietitians (not all of them), don't actually read any research.
Shoot Bricks,
Im sort of in the dark on this. So, real butter is no longer considered bad for us? Or is it simply no worse for us than its synthetic / margarine counterpart? At the rate that the medical community changes its collective mind, I might as well eat whatever I want and wait until the call it good for me.
Vigilant
03-01-2013, 03:28 PM
Shoot Bricks,
Im sort of in the dark on this. So, real butter is no longer considered bad for us? Or is it simply no worse for us than its synthetic / margarine counterpart? At the rate that the medical community changes its collective mind, I might as well eat whatever I want and wait until the call it good for me.Here Here! Coke with sugar bad, so drink Diet Coke, but now, Diet Coke bad, may as well drink Coke!
Shoot Bricks
03-01-2013, 03:36 PM
Shoot Bricks,
Im sort of in the dark on this. So, real butter is no longer considered bad for us? Or is it simply no worse for us than its synthetic / margarine counterpart? At the rate that the medical community changes its collective mind, I might as well eat whatever I want and wait until the call it good for me.
It is good for you, in the sense that the fatty acid profile is healthy. It contains mostly saturated fat. The story behind why saturated fat was demonized is a long one. But, the short of it is that it goes back to some bad science in the mid-20th century, it has been extensively studied, and there is no credible science that it causes heart disease. Even worse, when saturated fat was deemed evil, the default replacement was vegetable and seed oils, which are largely n-6 polyunsaturated fats. It turns out that these actually do contribute to heart disease. Margarine is a really bad alternative to butter, because it contains these harmful fats.
Now, when I say butter is healthy, there is a caveat. Fats are very dense in calories. And, no matter where you are getting your calories from, a large caloric excess will probably cause you health problems. If you are eating mostly whole, unprocessed foods, you are less likely to over consume calories. But, if you are eating crispy, sugary, buttery treats all of the time, you are going to overeat, and you are going to be in trouble.
Shoot Bricks
03-01-2013, 03:53 PM
Also, rather than the medical community changing its collective mind all of the time, I think it is painfully slow to change. Hence, why your doctor will probably tell you to avoid saturated fat.
The popular media is what gives the false impression that it is changing all of the time. What they do is look for any study to come out that will make a good headline, and run with it. This is why you'll see things like "New study says that consuming eggs increases the risk of death." Then, you'll see, "Consuming eggs reduces risk of heart disease, new study says." These media outlets don't actually care about science. So, they do not worry about the fact that the "eggs cause death" study was an observational study that can't possibly prove anything. They don't care that a more thorough analysis of the data shows people just tend to have more heart disease as they get older. They just want a headline, and they will print anything as long as they can reference a "study".
AlexSpartan
03-01-2013, 09:01 PM
You and I are on the same page when it comes to food, especially butter and oils. Kerrygold Irish butter is a staple in my household. It's pricey, comparatively speaking, but now there's no going back.
I honestly prefer Trader Joe's organic butter over kerrygold, even though KG is grass-fed. TJ's is much more yellow and tasty.
Francisp
03-02-2013, 12:32 AM
The Irish Swiss cheese and the Dubliner cheese was a mainstay among my parents growing up.
JPourciau
03-02-2013, 01:12 AM
My new favorite burger recipe... I found it just surfing the internet for recipes after I bought a cast iron skillet.
http://theshoeboxkitchen.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/hands-down-the-best-burger-youll-ever-eat/
Lucky Jackson
03-02-2013, 08:07 AM
I had forgotten about this great mustard commercial that JPourciau's link had...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mqIZa3PTX6c
L J
Don't overlook ghee, or clarified butter. Melt a pound of butter in a slow cooker or over very low heat, scoop off the fat, then filter through cheesecloth into a container, and use like an oil. Intense butter flavor, a lot fewer calories and a higher smoke point.
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