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jamgusmc
11-23-2012, 07:13 PM
Whats everyones favorite Wine? I was given a bottle of Riesling Clean Slate wine.. that I have to say is quite good! (drinking it right now) :dope:
Anthony
11-23-2012, 07:18 PM
My favorite wine?
Whatever is in the bottle!
I make about 2000 cases of wine a year. My favorite wine, now that I have 1/8th of a clue about how it is made and marketed, is "anything decent, really".
My favorite white varieties are Siegerrebe, Madeleine Angevine, Viognier, and Gewürztraminer. Red I like Shiraz/Syrah, Malbec, Sangiovese, Tinta Cão, and Barbera.
Mayflower
11-23-2012, 08:56 PM
I have recently re-discovered the joys of a simple Lambrusco... Was looking for something to go with some oak grilled venison tenderloin a couple weeks ago, and was thinking about a Merlot, then I saw the familiar Riunite label further on down the shelf and thought why not try this again, had been over 20 years since I'd last tried it.
Seems like everything 70's is cool again!
bae has certainly got me interested in the Sangiovese though, not an Italian bone in my body, but I sure do love their food and drink.
Chianti or Sangiovese.
Like bae said, anything decent. I'm not a connoisseur and I have a difficult time noting subtle differences, but once you step up you can not step back down.
PistolWhipped86
11-23-2012, 09:32 PM
Whats everyones favorite Wine? I was given a bottle of Riesling Clean Slate wine.. that I have to say is quite good! (drinking it right now) :dope:
That is one of my favorite Rieslings, and my second favorite white varietal. The Albarinos out of Rias Baixas are fan-damn-tastic though. I haven't had a bad one yet.
Generally, I favor wines from Spain, Australia, and Italy, with a few gems I've found out of Chile up there too. I prefer a dry Spanish Cava to most French Champagne 9 times out of 10. After a semester under a sommelier who all but snubbed anything that wasn't French, I got fed up with a lot of the attitude in the wine community. The only French wines I REALLY like are some of the Alsatian Gewurtztraminners. Been more of a small batch bourbon and craft beer man the past few years.
Still, knowing your way around a wine list impresses the ladies.
Australian and French reds. Shiraz, Merlot, bourdeaux, and in particular Pinot Noir. Best whites - NZ Kim Crawford Sav. Blanc (?), Louis Latour Chardonnay, or any good Central California Viognier.
foxmeadow
11-23-2012, 11:25 PM
I don't really get the whole Pinot Noir thing. ALMOST all of it tastes sort of watery to me. Cabs, merlots, zins on the red side, pinot gris, viognier and drier gewurtz for the whites.
Cold War Scout
11-24-2012, 03:38 AM
All I know about wine can be summed up with 'a 5 Euro bottle of wine in Tuscany is better than a $100 bottle of wine here.'
Mike Erwin
11-24-2012, 04:51 AM
I make about 2000 cases of wine a year. My favorite wine, now that I have 1/8th of a clue about how it is made and marketed, is "anything decent, really".
My favorite white varieties are Siegerrebe, Madeleine Angevine, Viognier, and Gewürztraminer. Red I like Shiraz/Syrah, Malbec, Sangiovese, Tinta Cão, and Barbera.
Bae, which variety of grapes do you grow (assuming you grow your own)? Do you ever sell and ship your wines? Might be interested in a case.
Mike
Sigma05
11-24-2012, 04:56 AM
The great thing about Spanish wines is that you get a lot more for your dollar over the other European wines. For all you white wine lovers you have got to try a Canary Islands one called "El Grifo". It's grown on volcanic rock and it's like nothing you have ever tried.
Ex Umbris Venimus
Manwell
11-24-2012, 06:54 AM
I do enjoy my "grape juice" without any doubt. For an inexpensive red wine this is very hard to beat in my humble opinion: Old Vine Red Lot Number 57 - Marietta Cellars - Geyserville, CA. I enjoy most of the reds and have found a lot of wine from South America that is very good and economical as well.
Manwell
rgw13
11-24-2012, 09:13 AM
I've been enjoying Sancerre (Sauvignon blanc grown in the Loire Valley of France) wines lately. Most restaurants serve it too cold, but when you give it a chance to warm up a little, they can be fantastic wines.
Froggy
11-24-2012, 11:45 AM
I prefer reds, a good Cab is best. If you are looking for good Red blend, try "Seven Deadly Zens". It's a very well balanced wine with lots of flavor for about $13.
Pokeguyjai
11-24-2012, 12:23 PM
Whats everyones favorite Wine? I was given a bottle of Riesling Clean Slate wine.. that I have to say is quite good! (drinking it right now) :dope:
I'm not a wine guy but from what I know, wine is an adventure.
For new wine drinkers, first they must acclimate their palette to the tannins, and then start developing a palette.
IMO Rieslings are a good place to start. They are sweet and very drinkable. I am not a big fan of the California Rieslings even though they can be quite good. They are white wines though and it will take a few bottles to start enjoying reds. You transition with either drier white wines or even rose wines (which are extremely flexible for pairing with food, especially grilled meats!)
Personally, I like whatever pairs well with what I am eating.
BESEPUL
11-24-2012, 12:38 PM
A 2010 Teofilo Reyes is what's gonna be put on the table tonight. I favor anything out of Spain, Chile and Argentina, specially the Tempranillo and Carmenere for reds, and Italian or Californian Pinot Grigio and Washington, German Reislings for whites. But with wine, it all depends on the region and how good of a year they had. As one somelier told me a couple of years back during a "cata", "if you like it, then it is good whine".
"It''s not because I'm a lawyer, it's because I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany..."
AlexSpartan
11-24-2012, 12:39 PM
The great thing about Spanish wines is that you get a lot more for your dollar over the other European wines. For all you white wine lovers you have got to try a Canary Islands one called "El Grifo". It's grown on volcanic rock and it's like nothing you have ever tried.
Ex Umbris Venimus
I imagine it's similar to the volcanic rock wines of Santorini. They have quite a different flavor than any other wines I've tried.
My favorite brand of red is Apothic, as I've said here before, although I have had some fantastic wines from France, Spain, Italy, and Greece, but I can't remember the names of them, or what happened the nights I drank them.
My favorite all time wine, if you can call it that, is Mead. Not technically wine (vino), which is made from grapes, but is instead made from Honey. Fantastic stuff.
michael
11-24-2012, 01:14 PM
My wife and I have gotten into the wine thing in the last couple of years, and have made two trips to VA specifically to visit vineyards and stock up for the year. Virginia has the largest number of vineyards in the U.S. except for California, and is becoming very well known for its variety of wines. We have probably visited 30-40 vineyards in the last couple of years, and our favorites so far are: Horton, Flying Fox, Afton Mountain, and Rockbridge. We have others that we like as well, but these are our favorites so far.
I tend to like reds, and prefer a sweeter or medium-bodied wine over the dryer Merlot varitey. There are some Merlots that I really like, but this is my general preference.
Olive Garden actually has a very nice, new house red wine that is excellent and from Italy. Give it a try.
Steve Paulson
11-24-2012, 02:56 PM
I hear tell that 2012 was a banner summer for grapes up here in the PNW. I'm looking forward to trying some of the local stuff that comes out of it. I have very little knowledge of wine, but I know I love a good red with a steak, and have really enjoyed some of the Oregon & Washington offerings. Not expensive at all, and deeply satisfying.
There is a pear wine made by The Gorge White House that is simply spectacular. My family and I drive out to Hood River once each year for apple picking, and I make this a stop each time.
PistolWhipped86
11-24-2012, 07:18 PM
A 2010 Teofilo Reyes is what's gonna be put on the table tonight. I favor anything out of Spain, Chile and Argentina, specially the Tempranillo and Carmenere for reds, and Italian or Californian Pinot Grigio and Washington, German Reislings for whites. But with wine, it all depends on the region and how good of a year they had. As one somelier told me a couple of years back during a "cata", "if you like it, then it is good whine".
The thing I like best about Carmenere is the history. It died out in France and Europe after a bad phylloxera epedemic in Europe and it didn't take to grafting like the other big reds. Then almost out of the blue they find it a century later among Chilean Merlots.
Francisp
11-24-2012, 08:05 PM
I used to place 48 quarts of 100% grape juice in a rubbermaid trash can. Added yeast and sugar..... stirred it a few days to a week and waited until it settled. And ole sicilian recipie.............
Running around Kuwait drinking & driving with Tom & Lou drinking this stuff was a blast. Until , we got busted! But the penalty was nothing compared to riding up to check points and playing with Kuwaiti rifles under the influence. ( That is a true story )
Thats what the gindaloons in my family call "daego red."
Francisp
11-24-2012, 08:06 PM
I'm not a wine guy but from what I know, wine is an adventure.
For new wine drinkers, first they must acclimate their palette to the tannins, and then start developing a palette.
IMO Rieslings are a good place to start. They are sweet and very drinkable. I am not a big fan of the California Rieslings even though they can be quite good. They are white wines though and it will take a few bottles to start enjoying reds. You transition with either drier white wines or even rose wines (which are extremely flexible for pairing with food, especially grilled meats!)
Personally, I like whatever pairs well with what I am eating.
This from a guy who drinks with me????
I used to place 48 quarts of 100% grape juice in a rubbermaid trash can. Added yeast and sugar..... stirred it a few days to a week and waited until it settled. And ole sicilian recipie.............
Ha, I started out the same way, and some of that was actually pretty decent. An old Scots-German recipe :-)
Then again, my hill-clan family didn't really think much of the whole "Prohibition" thing, except as a money-making opportunity. When Prohibition ended, half my relatives ended up moving into building race cars or driving them, my cousin owns a nice race track in Ohio still, and my uncle is still an insane professional drag racer. Uncle Jack used to show his "crashes and flaming uncle" reel to the kids at family gatherings, it was very inspirational!
Francisp
11-25-2012, 12:45 AM
There is a story here............. and i want to hear it!
Pokeguyjai drinks with me fairly regulary in my hellhole Irish bars on the west side of Manhattan> the man is getting civilized I see
Francisp
11-25-2012, 04:46 PM
You almost answered my question. But i have a visual of stumbling drunk nights and lots of rowdiness! ;-)
As Pokeguyjai says i hangout in places that look like they are out of the departed. I abhore "classy joints." If anybody is wearing office gear I leave hahaha
jamgusmc
11-25-2012, 04:50 PM
As Pokeguyjai says i hangout in places that look like they are out of the departed. I abhore "classy joints." If anybody is wearing office gear I leave hahaha
I got a great bar in my AO for you then! No suits there!
jamgusmc
11-25-2012, 05:19 PM
Good, suits are sooooooo boring! Take me to a working mans bar! We'll have poke and Francisp and SS58 join us. ;-)
Bring em along.. we will take over and show them what real men are like!
jamgusmc
11-25-2012, 05:44 PM
Hah! This reminds me of a time at table 20 in Pollos Italian rest. We had a bunch of guys from New England talking shit. They all , except one realized we completely surrounded them and were ready to give them some pain and bledletting! The one guy , strongly suggested that his group leave NOW! He was intelligent. Thats takes me to your thoughts about us being THE MEN.............. truth is, once guns are not around, and we may not be armed ;-) those other guys might have a say in how we behave! But i still doubt that!! hehehehe
Guns or no guns ... I dare say we could hold are own in any bar in any place in the world.... I do.
Francisp
11-25-2012, 08:01 PM
I got a great bar in my AO for you then! No suits there!
Hey man, i'm up in massachusetts all the time. I dated a chick in Boston for a long time but i'm mostly Brockton area these days.
Francisp
11-25-2012, 08:05 PM
Guns or no guns ... I dare say we could hold are own in any bar in any place in the world.... I do.
Gotta say, for all your weapons laws up there everyone seems to be armed, expendable batons, switchblades, blackjacks etc when going out.
jamgusmc
11-26-2012, 07:31 AM
Hey man, i'm up in massachusetts all the time. I dated a chick in Boston for a long time but i'm mostly Brockton area these days.
Well let me know when your coming up next time and we can hang out for a couple of drinks!
jamgusmc
11-26-2012, 07:32 AM
Gotta say, for all your weapons laws up there everyone seems to be armed, expendable batons, switchblades, blackjacks etc when going out.
People in General know the laws in Ma. are UNconstitional.. I prefer to carry legal weapons so that case if I do use them I am ahead of the game. (Even that can still leads to court time.)
Megalomaniac
11-26-2012, 08:02 AM
I like Barefoot Merlot for the price.
Sgt. Psycho
11-26-2012, 08:33 AM
My wife and I have gotten into the wine thing in the last couple of years, and have made two trips to VA specifically to visit vineyards and stock up for the year. Virginia has the largest number of vineyards in the U.S. except for California, and is becoming very well known for its variety of wines. We have probably visited 30-40 vineyards in the last couple of years, and our favorites so far are: Horton, Flying Fox, Afton Mountain, and Rockbridge. We have others that we like as well, but these are our favorites so far.
I tend to like reds, and prefer a sweeter or medium-bodied wine over the dryer Merlot varitey. There are some Merlots that I really like, but this is my general preference.
Have you been to the Peaks of Otter Winery in Bedford VA? Good selection if you like the sweeter variety of wines.
jtiii
11-26-2012, 11:14 AM
I like red wine, Merlot's, C.S. , I started cheap, till I found one several I liked. Oak Hill or 3 buck Chuck are good. Enjoy!
Wife and I drink about 325 to 350 bottles a year. We are somewhat serious winos. We like big reds ie: cabs, sangioveses, borolos...ect. We tend to buy high quality to price ratio wines. Not hard to get a 90 to 94 spectator or parker rating for less than $20.00. Shop at Costco
michael
11-27-2012, 03:33 AM
Have you been to the Peaks of Otter Winery in Bedford VA? Good selection if you like the sweeter variety of wines.
Not yet! That one is on our list to try, but we haven't made it there yet. We'll make sure and stop next trip, thanks for the tip.
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