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Uli Gebhard
08-08-2012, 09:43 PM
By Uli Gebhard (http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/instructor-uligebhard.aspx), Suarez International Staff Instructor Los Angeles
Up until a couple of years ago when I first trained with Mike Janich of Martial Blade Concepts, I carried a folding knife as a hybrid of tool and backup weapon. About a dozen knives later and working with the MBC material for several years, things have crystallised to three knives that fit the bill of a defensive knife best.
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Left to right: Cold Steel Voyager L Clip Point, Spyderco Delica, Blackhawk! Be Wharned


#1 - Blackhawk Be Wharned

The knife that I found works best for me is the Blackhawk “Be Wharned”. The Wharncliffe blade was chosen to allow for a maximum of cutting power when using pressure cuts and paired with a very pointed tip that would allow ease of penetration when needed. I used this knife to demonstrate some of the techniques on our trusty training tool “Porkman (http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?100355-Testing-your-knives-and-skills-Porkman&daysprune=75)” and it effortlessly created deep cuts that would be debilitating when inflicted on an attacker.
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"Porkman" Demonstration during a Defensive Knife Course - the "Be Wharned" cut effortlessly through thick denim fabric deep into the simulated muscle.
The knife features a liner lock. In most cases, I try to stay away from this type of lock, due to the fact that the majority of them do not retain the blade very well in the closed position. This one however, has a pressed-in ball bearing that works with a detent in the blade to accomplish this task.
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The internals of the Be Wharned - the Ball Bearing is visible as bright spot above the serrations of the liner lock

Once the blade is deployed, the slight curve on top of the blade accommodates the thumb perfectly and provides good purchase for pressure cuts. Rounding things off with a tapered grip and G10 scales, this knife fits my hand as if it were made for it.
Now after this laudatio: this knife is not a utility tool that you want to use to cut hot dogs with during a Cub Scout outing. It is a purpose-designed defensive knife and it will do whatever you need it to in its intended function. Tip is skinny and most definitely not intended as a screwdriver or for prying – if you need to do stuff like that, use an appropriate tool!

#2 – Spyderco Delica

The Delica may well be the most underestimated quality knife out there. With a mere 3” of blade length some may call it “girly”. The nice thing about the small size of the knife is that I can use it in the vast majority of settings at any given time to cut open boxes, cut fruits for the kids or open a letter that just landed in my inbox. The knife is small enough not to be perceived as a threat.
Rewind to the first Defensive Knife course I taught back in 2010. We had one girl in the class and she borrowed this knife when it was her turn to take a swing at Porkman. She landed a quick, hard swipe and wondered if she had inflicted any noteworthy damage at all. A closer look revealed that the cut had gone all the way down to the simulated bone.
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One fast hard swipe - and the cut went straight to the "bone"

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Small, benign and dangerously efficient - the Delica is a true go-to knife
A couple of observations on the design of the Delica:
The knife is extremely flat, which makes it very easy to carry clipped into a pocket or waistband. The clip allows for tip up, tip down, left hand and right hand carry. Ladies: this knife does hardly add any bulk even with fashionable clothes of a tighter cut. It can be stowed away out of sight yet can be deployed if –heaven forbid- the situation calls for it. The Girlfriend of one of our students had to do just that and took two would-be rapists out of the fight.
The cutting edge has only a very slight curve that leads up to a pointy tip. These are the features that provide a blade shape very similar to the Be Wharned and provide outstanding cutting power and penetration. Some of the newer versions have a full flat grind. When tested on porkman this improved blade shape made cuts quite a bit easier than with the classic hollow grind.
My Delica features a plain black handle and hollow grind and is the knife that I use the most thanks to its benign appearance.


#3 - Cold Steel Voyager Clip Point L

I have this knife set up for left hand deployment, something that is not possible with the older versions since the pocket clip was not reversible. This newer version came with two of them and since the blade shape makes inertia-opening incredibly easy, I decided to test this one out as a dedicated leftie. In the past, I used an older Axis lock version of the Cold Steel AK 47 in that role, but the bulk of that knife turned out to be not quite comfortable to ride in my left front pocket all day long. The Voyager L on the other hand, does not bother me at all.
The blade is very sharp out of the box and the full flat grind provides a very easy cut with little resistance. The only thing that detracts a bit from the cutting performance is the shape of the blade that sweeps up towards the tip and does not allow keeping full pressure on target throughout the entire cut. Nonetheless, when tested on porkman, it still left a devastating gash.
The Tri-Ad lock works very well. It engages reliably regardless which opening method I tried and unlocks easily once the blade has to go home.

The handle features a deep choil that allows for a very secure grip whether one needs to guide the knife through a cut or anchor it for a thrust.
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The deep choil (cutout) behind the joint provides a solid seat for the index finger

The Voyager is a bit large for use on day-to-day cutting tasks, but a solid knife overall.

The medium sized version with its 3" blade should be just about as versatile as the Delica, probably even a bit better since the slightly thicker grip will fill the hand a bit better - something I intend to evaluate in the near future.
Why there are fixed blade knives such as the TSD Grab N' Stab not part of this discussion? A properly carried fixed blade will deploy much quicker and eliminates the critical opening process. The answer is quite simple. Here in California only folding knives are legal for concealed carry.
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That’s it. Those are the three knives that I carry on a daily basis… let’s hear about yours.
Uli Gebhard is Suarez International Instructor in the the greater Los Angeles Area. He teaches Handgun, Rifle and Knife and HRO-CQB material.

Find out more about his classes here (http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/search.aspx?find=gebhard).
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Sigfan22
08-08-2012, 10:41 PM
My favorite do everything knife is currently my Benchmade 275 Adamas. The thing is an absolute tank! Thick blade, holds a great edge, and it's not prone to chipping like other knives I've had (when I use it like a screw driver or pry bar). The handle is thick and gives a very pediatrics grip. The heft and grip design also come in handy when I use it as an impromptu hammer while at the range.
My other knife is a TSD Grab N' Stab. I carry this strictly as a fighting knife. The wharcliff blade design does not lend it self to as much utility as other designs, but I bought it for a backup to my pistol. It rides in a custom IWB sheath that Dale Fricke made for me in the 10:45ish position angled toward my left hand. The grip is actually very easily accessed by either hand (rgei with the left hand, rgeo with the right hand).
Those are my 2. I own lots of others as well, but these are the only 2 I really use on a regular basis. The benchmade has been my ideal tool so far. I plan on picking up a couple more of them in the near future for vehicle and lbe mounting. The GNS is exactly what I wanted as well: down and dirty stabber. I already have 2 of the GNS, so one is getting sent off to IGF for the Envirotech finish to be applied (i seem to sweat acid, so rust with how close it is to my body is inevitable). Should turn out great!

AZBanks
08-09-2012, 12:00 AM
I have a Be-Wharned in my pocket every day. Well, it was in my pocket until I took it out to appreciate it's purposeful qualities once again, I love this knife.

paknheat
08-09-2012, 12:51 AM
Been sporting a Kershaw Needs Work lately . Really pleased with how well this knife fits my hand .

michael
08-09-2012, 02:28 AM
Excellent comments and article Uli, thank you.

I EDC a Be-Wharned and like it a lot. Like you stated, it fits my hand perfectly as well, and I love the blade profile. I also have a Delica in my go-bag as a spare, and they are excellent little knives that lend themselves to easy carry. I sometimes carry my Spyderco Military, waved Endura, or Benchmade AFCK, but the Be-Wharned and waved Delica (support side) are my normal carry blades. I do plan on getting the Yojimbo II soon.

TFA303
08-09-2012, 03:56 AM
I have Yojimbo waiting for me at home, but my favorite EDC do-it-all knife is a Kershaw Ken Onion Leek 1660:
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It's very flat and thin, which is excellent for wearing with a suit, and the blade shape is very effective.

I'm carrying a SOG Trident Folder right now (it's what was in stock at the PX), but I don't love it.

Ragsbo
08-09-2012, 05:25 AM
Spyderco Native, Endura, Delica.

thegreenman76
08-09-2012, 05:37 AM
I carry a CRKT m21-14sfg. I love the knife. I’ve been caring these for years, or some variation of them. I like the locking mechanism, I have no doubt that no matter how much pressure is on the blade it will not fail and cut my damn fingers off. This type of knife has never failed me. I work in construction, and I have recommended this to everyone I know. Also you can’t beat the life time warranty.

irishmike
08-09-2012, 06:08 AM
I love my new style cold steel voyager, it is my "do everything" knife. On construction sites, a big honking knife like it draws jealousy and envy, rather than fear or anxiety like at more "refined" places. I used to carry the older style of voyager, i tried the updated version and really like the changes to the handle and blade profile. This thing is a workhorse! Easy to sharpen, easy to deploy, cheap enough to leave in a BG if needed, and big enough to give somebody that "oh sh!t" feeling if you were to deploy it in a defensive situation. I recently started carrying my clinch pick daily again at 11 oclock appendix in lieu of a bigger blade (that usually gets taken off or left at home) Its placement allows to be deployed with either hand. Having something sharp and pointy available lefty is comforting. My left pocket is where i keep my reload and a flashlight, adding another folder would leave it a tad bit too cluttered. Thats what works for me and my lifestyle, I am interested in hearing other fellas methods as well.

SEALofthefuture1962
08-09-2012, 06:18 AM
I carry a Cold steel Ak47 mini. Had it two years, have it all the time and it's been abused. But it has no side to side or up and down and never had to adjust it. Keep an edge and is easy to sharpen. And it's light. The g10 is kick ass too. I recommend.

jlwilliams
08-09-2012, 06:31 AM
Benchmade 707 all the time. Good for everyday tasks, feels good in the hand and in the pocket. A good tool makes a good weapon but a knife designed to be a weapon often lacks as a tool for mundane tasks.

Goodspeed(TPF)
08-09-2012, 06:37 AM
It's an oldie, but a goodie. An Emerson SpecWar CQC7 from the Benchmade days. I think it's been riding with me for some 20yrs now. I bought two at the same time just in case I ever wore one out or broke one. I have never used the 2nd and it's still sitting in the box where I left it. A bit dusty by now I imagine. :-) ETA: Picture. I guess I bought more than just one extra knife that day. :-) I should have checked 19 yrs ago as I found some nice surprises in there. -Goodspeed

jcart
08-09-2012, 06:55 AM
All Spyderco - Delica not to often now, Native most of the time, but I just bought a Yojimbo 2 and it wants the Native's spot.

Uli Gebhard
08-09-2012, 08:35 AM
I have Yojimbo waiting for me at home, but my favorite EDC do-it-all knife is a Kershaw Ken Onion Leek 1660:
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It's very flat and thin, which is excellent for wearing with a suit, and the blade shape is very effective.



I handled one of these yesterday... a friend of the family stopped by and I noticed that he had a new blade clipped to his pocket. I wholeheartedly agree on the blade shape - pretty close to Wharncliffe style and with the pointed tip, this one's going to "go in" effortlessly.
A bit more of a choil would be nice and/or more texture on the grip material - I'm thinking about maintaining a solid grip with wet hands.

But yes - great knife... the assisted opening helps along nicely too when inertia-opening this one :biggrin:

AlwaysVigilant
08-09-2012, 08:43 AM
Spyderco Delica 4, grey grip.

Does everything a EDC knife should plus it is light and thin profiled. The only places I don't carry it have metal detectors.

OrgnlSinr
08-09-2012, 08:50 AM
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Spyderco R Nishijin My wife got me for fathers day this year has bin in my pocket as of late.

3corners
08-09-2012, 08:51 AM
CRKT Crawford Kasper or Kershaw Ken Onion Blur.

SqueeDAB
08-09-2012, 09:11 AM
I'm partial to these guys

CRKT M21-12G
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Waved Endura 4s
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DogDoc
08-09-2012, 10:53 AM
I always have a fixed blade (SOG Field Pup or Field Pup II). But I also carry at least one folder. Usually a Spyderco Endura but also quite like both the large and XL Voyagers.

When I'm not in fixed-blade-friendly environs I carry the Endura for public "tasks" and the Voyager for defense.

I also generally have a Glock Field knife strapped to me. As an herbalist, the GFK is an essential tool. Wonderful to have a knife I can jam into the gravel to dig up a root and not care what happens to it. I have yet to hurt the danged thing.

Doc

Chris Upchurch
08-09-2012, 11:09 AM
I carry a 5" Cold Steel Voyager in my left rear pocket. Since I'm not in California, my other carry knife is a Grab-n-Stab.

bmp_sbi
08-09-2012, 11:23 AM
Midline front I carry a tdi in kydex.
Rear pocket an Endura or Sogzilla.

DmDbo
08-09-2012, 11:33 AM
I handled one of these yesterday... a friend of the family stopped by and I noticed that he had a new blade clipped to his pocket. I wholeheartedly agree on the blade shape - pretty close to Wharncliffe style and with the pointed tip, this one's going to "go in" effortlessly.
A bit more of a choil would be nice and/or more texture on the grip material - I'm thinking about maintaining a solid grip with wet hands.

But yes - great knife... the assisted opening helps along nicely too when inertia-opening this one :biggrin:

There is a version with S30V steel and textured G10 handles.

HUMPHREY
08-09-2012, 01:36 PM
I carry a 5.5" CS Voyager in RH Appendix carry, purchased after reading John Chambers excellent piece on it recently. I also carry a Swiss Army (Bantam) knife my dad gave me for first knife when I was 8(?), it works well for opening letters, bottles, etc. On occasion I also add a CS Kobun with shock cord.

In Canada still, so no pistol as EDC piece as of yet.

Pict
08-09-2012, 06:00 PM
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My EDC is mostly a Benchmade RSK but often an Endura. Like the Delica the Endura is very flat and comfortable.

R4 fan
08-09-2012, 07:16 PM
I've carried Cold Steel, Benchmade, and Spyderco over the years. Recently I carry a small Blind Horse Knives wharncliffe fixed blade, and an ESEE 3 with custom kydex sheath stuck in my pants and attached to the belt with paracord. I was looking for a decent folder for on-duty, and for EDC. The Yojimbo is my new EDC knife, and I'm glad I bought two of them! I'm also going to add a Delica in the near future.

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Uli Gebhard
08-09-2012, 10:03 PM
One thing about the Delica especially if you want this thing completely out of sight: Try dropping it into your back pocket, tip facing outward, Spine of the blade up. To deploy, grab the thumbhole between index finger and thumb and do a reverse-inertia (for the lack of better terms) once the knife clears the pocket. This is something easily done out of sight for a person standing in front of you. When they hear the "click" it is already to late.... :firedevil:

jlwilliams
08-10-2012, 06:25 AM
I notice a lot of guys carry 5"+ blades. Is that legal where you are?

One of my defining requirements for a carry knife is: it HAS TO be a legal carry. I know, I know; better judged by 12 that carried by 6. If you carry more than the law allows you get it taken away by an observant police man. Now you have nothing, which increases the carried by 6 possability. Better to carry what you can carry than end up carrying nothing, I say.

Gun Mutt
08-10-2012, 06:39 AM
Try dropping it into your back pocket, tip facing outward, Spine of the blade up. To deploy, grab the thumbhole between index finger and thumb and do a reverse-inertia (for the lack of better terms) once the knife clears the pocket. This is something easily done out of sight for a person standing in front of you. When they hear the "click" it is already to late....
I think I hurt my brain trying to understand this. I need a video or photos or something for the learning impaired.

Goodspeed(TPF)
08-10-2012, 07:52 AM
I think I hurt my brain trying to understand this. I need a video or photos or something for the learning impaired.

Search for the spyderco "spider drop". That should give you what you need.

Chris Upchurch
08-10-2012, 08:21 AM
I think I hurt my brain trying to understand this. I need a video or photos or something for the learning impaired.

Basically, rather than grabbing the handle and flicking the blade open, you grab the blade and flick the handle open.

Cool Breeze
08-10-2012, 08:35 AM
I've found that, for me, Spydercos are my tactical/edc blade of choice. Favorite in order of preference are...Stretch, Pacific Salt, para-military 2, Endura 4 FFG.

If I feel I need something bigger, Police 3 g-10 is awesome as well as a cold steel recon1. I prefer the cold steel recon to the voyager series because has, by far, more traction via its very aggressive g-10 scales vs the voyager's FRN. Also, the finger choil is very pronounced which I like.

If I need something smaller because of laws. Spyderco delica or Sage 3 ---I haven't figured out my favorite 3inch blade/sub 3inch blade tactical knife yet but those two are at the top of the list for now.

Swab
08-10-2012, 10:20 AM
I notice a lot of guys carry 5"+ blades. Is that legal where you are?

One of my defining requirements for a carry knife is: it HAS TO be a legal carry. I know, I know; better judged by 12 that carried by 6. If you carry more than the law allows you get it taken away by an observant police man. Now you have nothing, which increases the carried by 6 possability. Better to carry what you can carry than end up carrying nothing, I say.

Check your local laws. Here in TX the legal limit is 5.5". I'm getting familiar right now with my new 5.5" Voyager. It's BIG. My wife doesn't like it and it's comfortable in my left front pocket.

Sleestak
08-10-2012, 10:26 AM
I like to EDC large and XL CS Voyagers. Sometimes I'll use the Endura and Delica or the TDI but today, the Voyagers.

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Garloch
08-10-2012, 10:45 AM
Basically, rather than grabbing the handle and flicking the blade open, you grab the blade and flick the handle open.

Now THAT, I can do. I learned that early on with a Buck Folding Hunter when I started carrying one in junior high in the early seventies. (Yes, no problem where I grew up whatsoever.)

Inertia opening any other knife in the conventional way seems to be outside of my grasp, much like rolling my r's with my tongue (which sucked when I took German and Russian.)

Uli Gebhard
08-10-2012, 11:44 AM
I think I hurt my brain trying to understand this. I need a video or photos or something for the learning impaired.

Uhhh - Dang! German Engineers... they have a tendency to over-complicate things :boggled:... Chris' description is spot-on!